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Em040579 · 04/02/2021 05:41

I've only just joined MN and getting used to it all - so here goes;

My DH, 2 YO DD and I moved into a beautiful house just over a year ago. We have absolutely wonderful neighbours around us and there is nothing they wouldn't do for you.

In lockdown my husband and I were invited into the street by a few of them to clap for carers and get to know everyone. We often stayed outside, socially distancing, chatting for ages.

We also found out we're pregnant again and expecting another DD in 2 weeks time. So very excited!

Everything sounds idyllic, except for our neighbours next door. Upon asking our other neighbours what their deal is, we've been told they're odd, dont engage with anyone and have been nicknamed 'Fred and Rose West'! I guess there is more to it that they haven't told us.

They're so bizarre and as time has passed in lockdown we have gotten to realise how intrusive they are which is making me uncomfortable especially using our garden in nice weather. Feel uncomfortable taking my daughter and soon to be newborn out there and pray things change this year.

The first time we met them was at the start of lockdown when we were in our gardens last year. The fence was only about 3 foot high at the time so they could see us and we could see them. Both my husband and I said hello numerous times, to be blanked. At first we thought perhaps they are hard of hearing but soon realised they just didnt like to make conversation which was fine and we left it at that.

One day over the summer I was working in the garden and said hello again and was met with a hello in return. He offered to raise the height of the fence which we thought was really nice and felt it would increase privacy for both of us. Because we live on the coast we have to have split pannel fencing which has gaps in to allow for air to pass through meaning it wont take off in high winds.

So our neighbour replaced the fence for a 5ft high one which was an expense for them. We were so grateful we bought them a case of beer to say thank you.

After he put the fence up, he then started building a small raised deck about 2 foot high, big enough for one sunchair attached to the fence. We noticed it once day because his wife started sitting on a chair with the back touching the fence under a parasol which hung over our fence. I know they can do what they want in their own garden but couldnt help seeing her sitting on the fence from our kitchen window under the parasol which was clipped to the fence and over hung into our garden. We thought it was an odd place to build it.

We didnt want to cause any aggravation over it so didnt question them and thought we would increase our privacy by planting some new bushes along the fence.

One day I was working next to the fence preparing the ground for planting when my neighbour's wife came out her house and accused me of putting a camera through the fence. I couldn't believe it and was so taken aback it made me feel quite uncomfortable especially as I hadn't really spoken to her before. I politely said I wasnt and showed her the spade in my hand.

She ignored me and went back inside. Because the fence has gaps in it I knew she had seen me working so feel our privacy is being breached and is exactly the reason we want to plant some bushes in our garden along the fence.

When they do sit outside they seem to like sitting right up against it at the other end next to our kitchen window (not on the new decking he built) and with another parasol clipped to the fence.

On another occasion when we were out of lockdown we had our in laws round for dinner as they are in our bubble and they help us with childcare. One evening last year my DH, myself, my MIL, FIL and SIL were sat outside talking, enjoying a glass of wine. My SIL saw my neighbour open their window and start playing loud music to get our attention. I felt so embarrassed as we weren't playing loud music or even shouting. At this point I wanted to go back inside so we did.

Last autumn we had some landscapers in to do some works in our garden. My landscaper told me one day while he was working that my neighbour came round while I was out and came into our garden, asking what they were doing. This made me so angry because he was trespassing. When I next saw him a few days later on our drive, cutting back the bushes from his property that were overhanging our drive I approached him and politely but firmly asked him to speak me and my husband in future, rather than take it upon himself to ask our contractors what work is being done. He didnt really say anything and didnt deny it or apologise. My other neighbour opposite who saw this messaged me to say he looked really happy after I went back indoors which creeps me out.

There have been other things that have happened but I feel I've written an essay here.

I have often wondered if it's because they are in their mid 60's and my husband and I in our late 30's with children and they dont like that - but that's still no excuse!

I know it's not me, but its driving me nuts and cant help but think we should have been firmer with them about respecting our privacy from the very beginning. We dont want to make things worse, since they have clearly made it known they dont particularly like us which is fine. However my husband and I are nice people, dont want confrontation and just want to be left alone to the privacy we deserve in our home and garden. Anyone else had annoying neighbours like this and what did you do?

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MaMaD1990 · 04/02/2021 06:10

They just sound like your typical grumpy neighbour to be honest. Most irritating and we'll dome for saying something when he spoke to your contractor - that's not OK. There isn't an awful lot you can do if you don't want to move unfortunately. It sounds to me like they enjoy being a thorn in people's sides and given they have a reputation in the street, I wouldn't let then impact how you use your home. If you want people in the garden, sit there and ask them to turn the music down - be polite but I certainly wouldn't be making any efforts to say hello or such in future. I don't if you can report anything to the council or police (re trespassing if it happens again) but you need to decide if you want to open that drama up and if it's worth it. Sorry your in this, they sound awful, but not the worst.

Minnie888 · 04/02/2021 06:36

In two weeks you'll have more than enough to be worrying about :) I'm sorry OP they don't sound normal to me or a typical grumpy neighbour... they sound odd. I find it strange they replaced the fence though, that was nice of them though a 6ft one may have been better! I would echo previous poster and say don't let them spoil your enjoyment of your garden.... odd as they are stand your ground and absolutely pick them up if they are ever cheeky enough to come in your garden again...

Gubanc · 04/02/2021 07:13

I really don't see any issues here. Apart from the camera comment, which you addressed. They're not very friendly and don't like the noise/people but nothing to be particularly concerned about.

Onmyleft · 04/02/2021 07:50

Same as @Gubanc. I don’t see any big issue here apart from the husband entering your garden to have a nose about. Did he enter through your house? How or why did the contractor let someone else into your property without your consent?

You may live on a friendly street and these particular neighbours just want to be left alone. They are not as friendly as the others. That does not mean they are odd or to be labelled as murderers. I’m a perfectly normal person but apart from being polite with my neighbours, I do not want to be invited to clap with them, have a chat, etc. I’d rather be left alone.

Em040579 · 04/02/2021 08:11

Thank you all for your kind replies. I'm ranting on a bit I know and would try and ignore them but lockdown has escalated these things for everyone I guess.

It must sound quite pretty when I talk about them sitting up against the fence on the new decking but you sort of have to see it to believe it. If one of them stands up on it they can see over the fence into our garden as it's that high.

We're hoping to get some more hedging planted this year to fill in the gaps as what we do have currently are quite young plants and will take time to fill out for screening. Hopefully that will help increase our privacy and help reduce the intrusion.

The accusations of using a camera and coming into our garden uninvited were the main issues that niggled away. I just couldnt believe someone would do those things.

I've heard and seen on tv other people going through similar things like that and worse but dont want it to escalate further for the sake of both my DD's who will want to play outside in the garden in years to come.

I dont think our contractor felt comfortable telling him to leave and avoid asking him questions.

Fingers crossed this will be a better year for everyone.

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Clutterbugsmum · 04/02/2021 09:17

Can you afford to build a taller fence (max 6'6') on your side rather then a hedge as it will be quicker then waiting for a hedge to grow.

user1471538283 · 04/02/2021 21:41

I would have them at every opportunity and ignore then the rest of the time. They sound like attention seekers and bullies. Smiling after that confrontation is wierd. Put a tall fence on your side. When they play loud music shout at them. If they are on your property shout to get them off to. But then I'm so fed up of some people thinking they can do what they like.

I had an odd neighbour once who once demanded to know why my sister had a key to my house! If you had listened to the neighbour I was awful and yet when I moved she said how sorry I was she was going.

What you have going for you is that the rest of your neighbours are good.

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