Small bathroom ideas - wall hung fittings?

[dizzyupthegirl86]

I’ve just purchased a house which has a small bathroom - it’s not the smallest bathroom I’ve seen but does need replacing and I’m trying to see if i can get any inspiration!
The room is 2565 x 1350mm, it currently has a normal door opening inwards which JUST avoids touching the bath (I’m planning to replace the door with one opening outwards as suggested on here).
The bath there now is 670mm which is quite narrow and I’d like a wider one if possible - less of an issue if the door opens outwards.

I’ve considered taking out the bath and having a shower cubicle but I’d rather keep the bath if possible, with a shower over. I’m also considering wall hung toilet and basin as if I’ve got very little on the floor, it might make it feel bigger (I’m aware I need to create a false wall for the wall hung toilet) and be easier to clean.

There’s a radiator opposite the toilet and a window above the bath (opposite the door). The external walls are top and left, I’m not opposed to changing the location of the toilet but need to keep in mind the waste pipe.

Does anyone have any ideas or opinions on wall hung fittings please?

You might consider a wall hung toilet in a unit which would give you a small amount of storage, such as Ideal Standard Concept.
Also, if you don’t need a full size wash basin, then a smaller one set in a unit would also supply storage.

That’s a good idea, I didn’t think of one in a unit (which is ridiculous because I want a wall hung sink with storage!) but that would work really well, thank you!

I was wavering over the bigger bath because the bigger the bath, the smaller the bathroom looks. But that’s only an issue when it comes to resale which is hopefully a way off. It’s not the forever house but I’m planning on being there for a while!

We got the toilet with a unit (toilet sits on the floor and no storage) but made sure the unit was max 20cm deep and a short projection toilet which moved our toilet back about 17cm. This created much more space for us to walk past the toilet into the shower. This might be a better idea for you as wall hung toilets and false walls take up quite a bit of space. We also got a sink with drawers underneath for storage.

@Murinae do you mean this kind of thing?
www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/harmony-high-gloss-white-btw-wc-unit-with-cistern-soft-close-seat-w500-x-d200mm

That would be a backup option if wall hung can’t happen. The person who’ll fit it (who’s doing it as a favour) isn’t keen as he thinks it’ll be a pain to fit.

Yes that’s similar to ours. Our plumber found it easy to fit. We got ours from Victoria plum rather than Victorian Plumbing. We got the derwent range

victoriaplum.com/product/orchard-derwent-white-back-to-wall-unit-and-round-compact-toilet-with-soft-close-slim-seat

This one is ours

a wall-hung toilet will usually have a cistern behind it, which takes up just as much room even it it has been boarded over and tiled (to make maintenance more difficult and expensive). There is also a concealed steel frame.

American toilets are different.

The basin will have waterpipes and a wastepipe.

@PigletJohn

a wall-hung toilet will usually have a cistern behind it, which takes up just as much room even it it has been boarded over and tiled (to make maintenance more difficult and expensive). There is also a concealed steel frame.

American toilets are different.

The basin will have waterpipes and a wastepipe.

This is pretty much what the fitter is saying - if anything goes wrong, it’ll be costly to fix. I may go with something similar to @Murinae - I won’t get the sleek open look I want but it will be easier to maintain.

How much do you use the bath? If be tempted by sink next to the toilet and large shower along left hand end wall.

I did think about that - the house I’ve just sold had a terribly uncomfortable bath and so I’m quite looking forward to a decent one! Plus I have a dog who has a tendency to get muddy, and I’m trying to consider resale potential. In my experience, if a small bathroom only has a shower in, people think it’s too small to fit a bath. Plus it’ll put some people off. I need a shower but I’m perfectly happy with a shower over the bath.

That's a small room. I agree, look at Ideal Standard Concept Space - you may be able to fit in a shower over a space maker bath that's full length. 700x1700mm is a standard bath though, I would not go any bigger in a tiny room. Remember you need room to get out of the bath and dry off/stretch out, leave yourself some floor space.
A wall hung basin/vanity is useful but I think wall hung toilets need so much supporting/concealing structure they are just hassle. Go for a neat normal toilet that takes up less room.

Thank you - 700mm I think would be fine, but 670mm feels tiny (it’s the same size as the one in the house ive just sold). It seems as though wall hung is out. The ideal standard range has given me some decent ideas, I’ve just pored over the catalogue! Wondering whether to consider one of the square ended baths to see if it feels bigger - will do some measuring up and see how it looks.

We have wall hung in two homes and they are not hassle. The depth for the wall hung frame is no bigger than a floor standing cistern. So absolutely no difference. They are much easier to clean underneath though. Some are a fairly short distance back to front. They look far less bulky and you gain a shelf and recessed cupboard space above. Ditto with the basin.

We had a really tiny bathroom in our last house. We had a mini bath, like this, except square space it had a shower screen and shower above. Then on the opposite wall we had a toilet and sink combination unit, like this.

It was probably the best use of space and didn't feel too cramped.

Is it possible to get a further 600m from somewhere to make it wider? That’s the real problem here. You only need it to be 800 wife for the bath! So 800 x 600 from another room. You wouldn’t need to compromise then. Small baths for 6ft plus tall guys (or girls) are a big problem.

Behind the bathroom is the landing and it’s not big enough to lose any space, certainly not 600mm.

The only other option is to knock through into a cupboard on the landing which is in the bottom right hand corner (thats not quite to scale on the picture) behind where the radiator would be. Then I’d have the bath running vertically down the right hand wall, and would then reposition the toilet. But it’d mean moving the waste pipe, and also take away valuable storage. I considered that initially but was warned it’d be an expensive job - and I ultimately thought I’d value a cupboard I can store bedding/towels/vacuum/laundry in over a slightly bigger bathroom. Maybe worth reconsidering though.

I was going to ask if you could go into the cupboard space. Maybe have the sink in front of the door, loo on the same wall to the left, then on the wall to the left of the door have some nice storage you might not lose out on too much space (though realise it's an uplift in budget!)

I hadn’t realised the square on the plan was a cupboard. I might see what the cost would be to incorporate it into the bathroom. It would make a huge difference and does free up a wall for bathroom storage.

I actually have a rectangular free standing bath. A square end doesn’t really help when you are in it! It uses more water to fill it and although I like it, it’s style over substance!

If you go to victorian plumbing don't forget to register as a trade account. Personally I'd ditch the bath and have a walk in shower or the room will feel way too cramped, but purely personal taste

Depends when you want to sell. Parents with small dc don’t want shower only main bathroom. We have sold holiday homes with main bathroom as a shower and also the en suite but getting sand off was important! One bathroom with just a shower isn’t usually a great selling point.

@Loofah01 that’s a great tip, thank you!

I’m not planning on selling straight away, but I’m relatively new to the area (moving for work) and so I don’t want to put tons of money into it before I’ve got an idea of how long I’ll stay.

I think I’m going to look at the space saving fittings mentioned by a few posters and keep the layout pretty much the same - with a view to changing in 3-5 years if it’s worth knocking through into the cupboard.

Thanks for the help, all!