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Neighbours building snooping tower, without planning permission

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LadyPeachums · 10/12/2020 15:48

Does anyone here have experience of planning permission, when neighbours refuse to apply? Does the planning authority (ours is a national park) have any power if the neighbours just ignore planning rules? Is there any other recourse to action, without taking them to court? The main issue we have, is privacy..
I live in a row of terraces, with back gardens on a steep slope. The neighbours next door, in the end terrace, have built an elevated, extended platform in their garden. Because of the common sloping nature of our gardens, it is raised about 8 feet above our heads when we stand in our garden, which we flattened into a lawn terrace, near 20 years ago. If we put up a fence for privacy, it would have to be 8 feet tall just to reach their feet! It is a wooden structure held in by long beams of wood, that they have concreted in and hidden under more earth at the top, on the same level as our top terrace gardens, next to an ancient hedge line. It is as high as the roof, and looks down into our back bedroom window. The room is largely unused, but our grandchildren sleep in there sometimes, including a teenager. (And these people publicly spout their concern for the environment, and 'community values'!)
Anyway...what is worse, prior to this, they told us they were putting up 'a raised patio' (we just thought that meant just a few feet above the lower level) which we have no problem with. Then they snuck around, avoiding us; then to treat us to an ongoing cement mixer with around a tonne or more of cement, and power tools all through spring lockdown, summer, and only to pause in November with their snooping tower aloft. No planning. I'm writing this now, because scaffolding has gone up around their house now, and Mr Power-Tools-Mid-life-crisis man is at it again. Planning tell us that they are still waiting for an application, and that it is overdue, but they can't legally say anything to us, though they have been sympathetic. (The nosy neighbours have bought their social housing, we still rent).

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sunshinesupermum · 10/12/2020 15:50

If your local Planning Department is now aware I suggest keeping them informed of your neighbour's progress (with photographs) and then they can take action.

cinders15 · 10/12/2020 15:50

Your local authority will have a planning enforcement team - my husband was such a person! Google it and ring them
They are not allowed to confirm the name of the person who informed them
I hope this helps

sunshinesupermum · 10/12/2020 15:51

PS although I am surprised they haven't taken action over the elevated platform which already exists.

Rollercoaster1920 · 10/12/2020 15:54

It's a planning enforcement issue. Sounds like you've spoken to the planning department and the neighbour and they have agreed to pause whist a retrospective planning application is submitted.

Talk to your local councillor or MP, they may be able to apply pressure to the planning enforcement department to enforce, rather than make it easy.

Also get your planning application objection ready now, with other neighbours.
Good guidance here: planninglawblog.blogspot.com/p/how-to-object.html?m=1

Saz12 · 10/12/2020 18:00

Usually National Parks are very tough on planning permission. They absolutely can insist on structures being removed.

LadyPeachums · 10/12/2020 20:48

Thanks, yes, they've been a bit unclear about what 'enforcement' involves. I mean, what happens if the neighbours don't bother to apply for it? I asked directly, and got a lot of reassurance about 'the process' but not anything actual!

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LadyPeachums · 10/12/2020 20:53

Thanks for your comments, all. I think that Mr and Mrs Snoopington Power-Tool are going to ignore planning and just do their own thing. They know we've complained - we told them, and also removed ourselves from speaking terms (seeing they've been so sly and dishonest anyway). What to do if they just entirely ignore the planning department forever? Goodness knows what this current project is. Scaffolding both sides of the house, power tools all day. I'll definitely contact the MP. Anyway, cheers all.

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Ideasplease322 · 10/12/2020 21:05

My neighbours have done this. No planning permission.

The same neighbours Yelled as me for timing some Branches that were overhanging into my garden. The tree I trimmed want even theirs.

Apparently if you trim branches It impacts on their privacy, and even if you technically allowed to do it you should seek all neighbours permission.

But if you want to build a really high deck that overlooks your neighbours garden without the required planning permission that’s totally okay🙄.

Hypocritical arses.

tilder · 10/12/2020 21:11

I live in a National Park. Absolutely yes, they can and do enforce planning rules. Including removal of non compliant structures. They are generally very hot on this. Probably less so with Covid.

Sounds like it in progress. Keep an eye on the relevant portal. In case you don't get notified of any application.

Btw it is possible to get retrospective permission, if what you (or your neighbours) have done is in line with planning policy. So it's not a guarantee that it will be removed.

Chumleymouse · 10/12/2020 21:27

I’m not sure scaffolding and using power tools are anything really to complain about. Raised platforms ( decking ) do need planning permission, but not sure of the exact requirements if it’s away from the house ? These are things you have to learn to live with if you live close to other people , not everyone thinks they should do what the neighbours like ( or don’t like ) everybody is different .

Is an ancient hedge line the same as a normal hedge line ?

Ideasplease322 · 11/12/2020 09:38

Decks need planning permission where I live if they are over 30cm high - it doesnt matter if they are beside the house or at the bottom of the garden.

Planning laws are there for a reason.

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