Fixtures and fittings - would you be a bit peeved about this?

[Mykittensmittens]

I know they are within their rights, etc etc but just had the fittings forms back for our ongoing purchase. We loved the house particularly due to its high level of finish - but I was a bit shocked to find they are taking...

Every single light fixture
Not just the cooker but the splash backs
Every blind and curtain rail
The shed, the greenhouse
The compost bin
Towel rails
Toilet roll holders
Bathroom cabinets

All the bathroom fittings that are being removed are fitted on fully tiled walls so that’s not great.

In fact pretty much everything is ‘excluded’ that can be.

I have emailed the solicitor now but there is no mention of wanting to negotiate. Is that it then?

I presumed they might want to negotiate on leaving a few things but clearly not!

It’s not put me in the best of moods tonight.

Are you able to say you are concerned about the level of making good their plans involve and ring fence some money in the contract to be paid after the making good? So no chance you are left with holes in your walls and broken shed in your garden and a lengthy legal battle if you want any compensation?

All those complaining about holes etc. Do you not expect that when you move there will be holes and the like that needs addressing regardless of whether it looks like it should be ready to move and live in immediately?

I would be taken aback if anyone left their curtains in a house I was moving into. I’d want them to remove them. I have never moved anywhere where someone leaves their curtains. It’s like if they left their sofa. I’d expect most people to take curtain poles too. That’s normal.

@MotherExtraordinaire

All those complaining about holes etc. Do you not expect that when you move there will be holes and the like that needs addressing regardless of whether it looks like it should be ready to move and live in immediately?

If you remove something you are meant to "make good" I believe.

I assume they’re taking their artwork with them, which will also leave holes when they remove the fixings. Many people bolt large items of furniture to the walls for safety, which also leaves holes. I expect they’ll fill in the holes before they leave, just as most people do with holes made by artwork and furniture.

It really isn’t the end of the world. Frustrating, yes, and I’d probably agree slightly mean and cheeky if they’d added prices to the fixtures form and tried to flog unwanted stuff useless to them - but as it is, they’ve haven’t so apparently just want to take their own possessions which they bought themselves and probably quite like.

Check what the property details say in the listing. Are there any references to shed, greenhouse, cooker etc?

So does this filling in holes/make good also include filing in holes from the millions of pictures some have? Never mind mirrors, clocks, mounted tvs, speakers etc. And of course free standing shelving and more that you are advised to anchor to a wall?

Or does this only apply when the fixtures/fittings are wanted by the new buyer?

Some of these responses. I had no idea some folks stripped their houses bare when they sold.

I’m with you op, I leave all white goods, curtain poles, curtains, light fittings etc, and only had one house where they took the light bulbs and loo roll ends, but even they left the curtain poles and light fittings etc. Everyone else did the same as me.

I think if folks are going to strip it bare it should be made clear when it’s put up for sale, as in price excludes all fix fittings so you can offer accordingly, most folks assume most of that shit you mention stays.

I'm selling at the minute and I'm leaving stuff like the made to measure blinds and the made to measure single curtain on the patio door, why would I take them when they won't fit anywhere else? It's just petty isn't it. I'd be annoyed if I were you!

As for making walls good, do people honestly expect not to see the odd picture hook or nail in the wall? I've never sold before so I'm not sure. Wasn't planning on patching up or painting!

This is the whole point of the fixtures and fittings form.

They legally need to 'make good' any damage caused by removing fixtures and fittings - this is generally be interpreted as to fully conceal any damage caused to be undetectable to the naked eye.

So if tiles are left with holes, those tiles must be replaced. Holes in walls must be filled and painted over, the whole room may need painting if a colour match cannot be made. If they don't do this they may be breaching the terms of sale and you may be entitled to seek to recover redecoration costs from the sale price. I would make this very clear.

Did you hear back from your solicitor?

@WellIWasInTheNeighbourhoo

They legally need to 'make good' any damage caused by removing fixtures and fittings - this is generally be interpreted as to fully conceal any damage caused to be undetectable to the naked eye.

So if tiles are left with holes, those tiles must be replaced. Holes in walls must be filled and painted over, the whole room may need painting if a colour match cannot be made. If they don't do this they may be breaching the terms of sale and you may be entitled to seek to recover redecoration costs from the sale price. I would make this very clear.

Only of cited in the contract.

@MyOtherProfile yes we did.

He just said it’s at the ‘extreme’ end and will return a comment reminding that things should be left in a good state.

We’ve booked a viewing with the vendor, so we can measure up for some of the things which are going. I hope that will give a human insight into what’s at play. If they don’t want their things then I’m happy to make a reasonable offer but I won’t be paying over the odds either!

it is annoying, but it is legal.
I don't know about the toilet holder though
either a tactic to draw you into begging for the items or old fashion way of doing things.
however, as I did, I have asked my seller to fix every hole they created.
booked a viewing before exchange, to put them under pressure not to indulge in ripping the place to pieces.