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Nice, safe and very friendly neighbourhoods in london zone 2 (maybe 3)

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Mhschoolq · 21/11/2020 09:45

Following on for my other “where on earth to live?!” posts, I thought I’d ask where you think the friendliest, safest, nicest area in London zone 2 (preferably, but 3 also good!) is?

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ColdNovemberNights · 25/11/2020 01:43

Im actually amazed about some of these areas.
90% of them really arent safe!

Do these people not walk around at night?
Wait as the bus stop? Etc?

IJumpedAboardAPirateShip · 25/11/2020 03:44

Kentish Town high road is still a shit hole. And I went to one of those (the only?!) good school...

Copernico · 25/11/2020 05:48

Ooh I like the Kentish Town high road! I like that there’s a mix of chain and independent businesses and something for everyone/ bookstore, natural foods shop, cafes. It’s practical for families unlike some high streets where you can only find expensive wine and candles.

Gooseysgirl · 25/11/2020 07:21

@ColdNovemberNights totally agree! I've worked and lived in (and love!) many of the areas mentioned but wouldn't classify them as particularly 'safe', especially at night. If I had a blank cheque it would be Wanstead in East London for me, although further out than the OP has asked. Hampstead Village is gorgeous but ££££.

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 25/11/2020 07:44

London on the whole is pretty safe.
What do you mean by these areas not being safe?
Catford, Hackney, Brixton, all stuffed with nice families living calm ordinary lives.
Where crime exists it is pretty much confined to the people who are involved in it. If you are not in a gang or dealing drugs you are very unlikely to see any crime.

The OP gives no budget. Lots of the areas named are places people moved to where they could afford a family house. If you can afford Hampstead, or Dulwich Village you are unlikely to need advice, the whole world is your oyster. If you have a budget you may need to follow some of the friendly, ordinary, non smack dealing MNers to the areas in which they live happy family and community orientated lives.

And if your lived info is more than 5 years out of date it is worthless.

Mhschoolq · 25/11/2020 08:52

Lots of replies!! My budget is around £1.2, might be able to stretch further depending on how well my sale goes. I’m all about location, so I’d live somewhere smaller - even a flat - to live somewhere nice. I would far rather a safe, lovely, friendly area than a big house.

Also curious about where the PP means by Hackney village! I have friends dotted around parts like Clapton and London Fields and Stokey etc - they love it, but they talk a LOT about the crime.

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Babymamamama · 25/11/2020 09:39

I live in London and know it well. With your budget I’d get a lovely flat in Hampstead or Highgate. Or looking in the other direction a house in Dulwich or Blackheath.

Zinnia · 25/11/2020 10:28

I love Kentish Town, £1.2 will get you a nice flat or a small house there. Schools are great at both primary and secondary.

I wouldn't live in Hampstead "proper" myself (the big houses are full of the super-rich and there's precious little community, the centre is very touristy and properties are tiny and £££) but towards Swiss Cottage or West Hampstead, or around South End Green if you can afford it, all very nice.

Ladsladslads · 25/11/2020 10:38

Places in London seem to get "village" added to them all the time, I think it's just estate agent spin. Fondly remember an estate agent trying to convince us to look at a flat in "Ladywell Village" about 10 years ago...

Respectabitch · 25/11/2020 10:45

@Trut

I love Canada Water and Surrey quays area. Seems quite European somehow. Remarkably quiet for Zone 2 and well connected with tube, overground, bus and boat!
It must have changed in the last 10 years then, because when I lived in Bermondsey it mostly resembled a very large outdoor airport terminal.

I'd also say Herne Hill/Dulwich, Forest Hill, Crystal Palace, Ladywell, Brockley. All family-oriented areas with community and culture. SE London is full of little known gems.

Brixton does have a "Brixton Village", but it's the name of the covered market (now heavily hipsterised) rather than a part of the area. I love Brixton, but it certainly still has its underbelly too.

Trut · 25/11/2020 11:00

“It must have changed in the last 10 years then, because when I lived in Bermondsey it mostly resembled a very large outdoor airport terminal.”

I think Bermondsey is quite different even though it is close by, and I agree it is busy and doesn’t have much character.

Canada Water and Surrey Quays are different, in large part because they are on the river, the streets have lovely evocative names and the warehouse conversions are similar to those in europe. Far too many new builds coming up though.

ghislaine · 25/11/2020 11:27

Herne Hill for me too! We love living here. Good transport links, either 15 mins to London Bridge from North Dulwich or 10 mins to Victoria from Herne Hill. Very good state schools, both primary and secondary. Excellent parks.

Here are a few options in your budget:

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/99891938#/

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/73947900#/

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/85855126#/

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/94952585#/

Movinghouseatlast · 25/11/2020 11:36

Herne Hill. It is the best of both worlds, London-y but village-y at the same time. Brockwell Park and the Lido are great. Walking distance to Brixton if you want more London. Or to Dulwich Village if you want more village! Lovely big Victorian and Edwardian houses, great restaurants and bars. It is fab.

JoJoSM2 · 25/11/2020 12:32

www.met.police.uk/sd/stats-and-data/met/crime-data-dashboard/

You can compare crime rates on there (safer neighbourhoods section for looking at smaller areas + you can filter by types of crimes eg muggings vs shoplifting). SW London is probably your best bet at all mostly gentrified, safe, lots of fancy ‘villagey’ high streets and very green too.

ColdNovemberNights · 27/11/2020 00:59

London is safe and unlikely to see crime.....

Really????

Do tou walk around with your eyes closed?
Out at night? Get a bus? @ @RainingBatsAndFrogs

ColdNovemberNights · 27/11/2020 00:59

Look at Southfields / Wimbledon Park area!

myhobbyisouting · 27/11/2020 01:20

"you are very unlikely to see any crime."

🤣🤣 I'd been at BILs 3 hours last time and we had seen several crimes and arrests going on before we unpacked!

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 27/11/2020 05:59

I have lived in and around Brixton for 30 years, with a job that means I travel home from work at 11pm, coming home on the bus.

I have never been the target or subject of any crime. I find people friendly and community minded.

Obviously crime exists, I have seen people stop and searched, there are break ins and car thefts, but that happens in my parents’ rural village.

The crime that everyone fears is largely (not exclusively, obviously) , and tragically, contained within the gang culture and the demographic most pressured to join it, for gain or for their own protection.

The vast majority of Londoners go about their business happily and calmly.... yes, even in areas declared ‘rough’ on this thread.

JanewaysBun · 27/11/2020 09:26

Safety is difficult to gauge. I live in a nice, supposedly safe area however we have had a recent problem with school kid/youth criminals travelling from their crap area to mug wealthy looking teens at knifepoint Shock

That's the thing about London, there are nice and horrible places often very near so burglaries etc often happen In the nicer areas as there's better stuff to pinch!

Saying That I was in my working class boring home town the other year when people were going about stealing others' Xmas shopping so maybe crime is everywhere unless you are rural

MojoMoon · 27/11/2020 10:37

I walked home through Bethnal Green and Hackney at close to midnight yesterday and survived to tell the tale. Would rather do that than the same walk in parts of Chiswick and Kew to be honest - it's very quiet there, and lots of trees so very dark and no one around so much scarier at night than a busy street!

Not using the bus at the moment but have spent a good chunk of my youth on night buses in London - a few drunks and weirdos, some clearly very unwell people and yes, once a fight between some teens who claimed to have a knife although no evidence of it. Honestly the rest of us on the bus were basically invisible to them. They aren't interested in you.

I have had my car broken into two years in a row while visiting friends in a tiny village in Yorkshire and was burgled when I lived in Bath for six months and my phone snatched out of my hand in Exeter. And as yet, never been burgled in London (touch wood)

Did have a letter through my door once from the police asking if we'd heard gunshots the previous night (we had not) and we've had some issues with people smoking heroin in a old phone box but they've done no harm to anyone beyond themselves.

If I look at the crime stats for my local area and zoom in to my estate, it looks dreadful. Loads of anti social behaviour crime etc, but most of that is one very mentally unwell person who was clearly desperate for help and used to essentially call the police on themselves and go and sit in the middle of the road. Quite a bit of domestic violence in that household as well so explains some of the assault crime listings. But little bearing on the lives of the rest of us

I am not entirely glib - I wouldn't walk home alone drunk, I stick to main roads and I keep my phone tucked away because I have witnessed some highly skilled high speed snatchings of them. I grew up in a fancier part of West London and teens are at higher risk of being mugged by fellow teens - this has always been true. But most are never actually mugged.

And eventually your teens will be going off to Shoreditch, Deptford, Soho, Dalston, Peckham etc because it is where the cool stuff is - so they will venture outside what ever suburb you choose anyway.

Smallgoon · 27/11/2020 13:56

@RainingBatsAndFrogs I spent 3 years in Brixton and didn't once feel unsafe. It helps that it's a super busy area so even when I walking back at 2am etc, there were always people around. Agree that crime is usually confined to those involved in illegal activities, so unless you yourself are a drug dealer, you should find that you'll be fine. Relative to the number of people in this city, I'd say the amount of crime in London isn't something to be hysterical about. But that's just me.

Smallgoon · 27/11/2020 13:59

I walked home through Bethnal Green and Hackney at close to midnight yesterday and survived to tell the tale. Would rather do that than the same walk in parts of Chiswick and Kew to be honest - it's very quiet there, and lots of trees so very dark and no one around so much scarier at night than a busy street!

Agree with this. I definitely do not enjoy the eerie silence late at night.

Twizbe · 27/11/2020 14:09

I live in Penge which is zone 3. Lovely area, great community, close to Crystal Palace, beckenham, forest hill but tons cheaper.

RubyViolet · 27/11/2020 14:45

Dartmouth Park, Tufnell Park, Kentish Town are all great.

Zinnia · 27/11/2020 16:44

@RubyViolet have you just borrowed your name from, or are you in fact the ice cream shop? Because if so I love your ice cream! Grin

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