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Is this a dealbreaker?

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Fleurchamp · 18/11/2020 19:37

We are currently going through the sale and purchase process - we have been having problems with our purchase but our sale seemed to be chugging along - until today....

We have been asked whether we have ever had mice/rats and if so the location and full details of the problem.

We have, over the years, had the odd mouse problem. We usually get a pest controller out, they put stuff down, come back a couple of weeks later, replace the stuff, come back again and say problem gone. We leave the poison out under the kickboards and did not hide this from the surveyor.

The problem is that I hear them under the floorboards or I find droppings behind the kickboards in the kitchen. I have only ever seen one mouse (and one dead one from years ago when the pest controller used those sticky boards Sad). I haven't had food eaten in cupboards or any sign in the living areas. It isn't a constant issue, it usually happens in winter.

The first time it happened we did a lot of mouse proofing - over the air vents, blocked holes etc but our house is like a Swiss cheese and so we cannot prevent them.

This has probably happened 3 or 4 times in 10 years. We are in a row of terrace houses and so we have found the problem to be worse as one of our neighbours does not also deal with the issue - (a newer person, most of us have been here 10yrs +) does not seem to deal with as promptly or efficiently as everyone else - I would say we had mice once in 5 years and then not again until the new people moved in 3yrs ago and since then I think it has been every year. We also live near to a pub and a curry house. There is a large park a few doors away.

I am not going to lie, I will tell our buyers, I don't think I will mention the neighbours though as I can't prove they have them or whether they do or don't do anything to prevent them (I have never really spoken to them about it, I just let all the neighbours know if we find droppings or whatever so they can also take action and they do the same for us- except the ones I suspect just ignore it).

Would this be a deal breaker for you? They have their searches and mortgage offer back, if anything it has been our purchase slowing things down and then today, this question out of the blue.

Panicking slightly that bloody mice could lose our sale.

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sophandbridge · 18/11/2020 19:59

It'd be a deal breaker for me, sorry. If a neighbour doesn't bother about mice then what else aren't they bothering with - what happens if they get rats.

Fleurchamp · 18/11/2020 20:01

The thing is, I don't know for sure that the neighbour does nothing - it may just be coincidence that the problem has increased since they have been there.

Would mice per se be a deal breaker?

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tilder · 18/11/2020 20:01

Wouldn't be a deal breaker unless it was a serious rat infestation.

Slightly harder to deal with in a terrace. But I would just get a cat. Maybe a Jack Russell if it's rats.

tilder · 18/11/2020 20:04

I think you just need to be honest. You've had the odd mouse. Had treatment. Job done. It's very common.

If it's a deal breaker will depend on your buyer.

mountains76 · 18/11/2020 20:05

The odd mouse is perfectly normal, no reasonable buyer would drop out over this.

Miip · 18/11/2020 20:06

It might be. It would depend how much I like the house. If i was having doubts it might be enough for me to pull out.

I do hate the thought they might attract rats.

TerribleCustomerCervix · 18/11/2020 20:07

If it meant that I was having to deal with a mouse invasion on a yearly basis, then yes I’d walk.

Fleurchamp · 18/11/2020 20:13

Not quite an invasion - I can't stand them either and so I get pest controllers out at the mere hint that a mouse has stepped foot in the house.

Hmmmm, I guess time will tell.

I think I will ask our sellers the same thing though 😂

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sophandbridge · 18/11/2020 20:15

I think it'll be a deal breaker for your buyers, if they weren't bothered about it then why would they ask?

Sorry to be so negative.

Fleurchamp · 18/11/2020 20:16

@Miip

It might be. It would depend how much I like the house. If i was having doubts it might be enough for me to pull out.

I do hate the thought they might attract rats.

Mice attract rats?!? The pest controllers usually reassure me that mice mean no rats.... I have seen rats in the park down the road (there is a lake).
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Fleurchamp · 18/11/2020 20:18

@sophandbridge

I think it'll be a deal breaker for your buyers, if they weren't bothered about it then why would they ask?

Sorry to be so negative.

Maybe they were asked on their sale? I am going to ask on my purchase now and I wasn't going to before, I kind of think they are quite a common problem, aren't they? I don't think I would pull out of our purchase but would have the pest controllers round as soon as we moved in (I probably would anyway!).
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sophandbridge · 18/11/2020 20:31

That's a fair point, maybe it just gets asked more now.

Asdf12345 · 18/11/2020 20:37

We get mice every winter and have done everywhere we have lived. Mostly because the cat brings them in and then let’s them go.

PaxMalmKallax · 18/11/2020 23:27

My cats would be delighted!! As a buyer I don’t think it would put me off.

purpletrees16 · 18/11/2020 23:45

I asked about pests for rented ... after I moved in to a flat, switched off the lights to go to bed and found the whole place started crawling with cockroaches! Turns out legally that is not enough to break a contract and instead the landlord has to fill the place with poison whilst you live there. I Cried a lot. The estate agents made it sound like the landlord was doing a favour by paying to get rid of them as if I’d managed to arrive with a 100 cockroaches within 24 hours of getting the keys. Luckily I held off moving my belongings for as long as possible but I had to live there to get to uni.

However, I haven’t done it for buying unless and wouldn’t unless, weirdly, the property was ex-rental. I don’t think the owners I met would put up with that. Mice are fine for me.

Rats, cockroaches or bed bugs would be a red line. I did look in cupboards for traps and round the outside for the rat ones.

Porridgeoat · 19/11/2020 07:20

You just say yes there have been occasions when you have had mice but no signs of rats. The mice have always been dealt with either by using x company or through putting x down to kill

Porridgeoat · 19/11/2020 07:21

Mice or rats. Never had them together

mummyh2016 · 19/11/2020 07:25

It would be a deal breaker for me sorry, I am petrified with mice and rats, and even hearing them makes me want to rip my own skin off.

Redglitter · 19/11/2020 07:41

Would be a deal breaker for me too. I had mice in a flat I lived in. Literally made me ill
I ended up moving because of them. Couldn't get rid of the buggers

PrismSpectrum · 19/11/2020 09:29

Do your buyers realise that we share this world, and our houses with a multitude of creatures? There's some statistic like you're never more than 3m from a rat, especially in London. Houses, and older ones in particular, get mice. It's not nice, but a cat, traps and getting pest control in to securing air bricks and any tiny gaps can help. It's just a fact of life. That said, I would lose my shit if there was a rat in my house or bought one that turned out to have rats. Blush

Fleurchamp · 19/11/2020 10:41

We are on the outskirts of London and I know lots of friends nearby who also have had mice (and one that had a rat Shock).

I kind of agree though, don't buy a draughty Victorian terrace if you don't want mice.

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