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Accepting offers now when there’s nothing we want to buy and the buyers want to move before the stamp duty deadline

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SheWouldNever · 16/11/2020 17:01

The short version: Someone has offered on our house. They want to complete as soon as possible, and definitely before the stamp duty holiday ends. We aren't sure we will be able to find and buy a house in that timeframe, and we are hesitant about breaking the chain and completing our sale without having a purchase to complete at the same time. Should we accept their offer or would that be potentially messing them around? The perfect house could crop up tomorrow, we just don't know.

The long version: There's a lot of moving parts to this story so here is the TLDR bit so as not to drip feed.

We were getting ready to go on the market in March (great timing eh?) and then lockdown hit so we had to wait. Finally went on in September (after taking a brief pause in summer when house viewings and the market reopened, as we were having a baby).

Fast forward two months and we have an offer made on our house. Great! That means we are finally proceedable to offer on houses ourselves...except there are no suitable houses available right now. We have quite tight parameters to stick to including a small school catchment and need a certain number of bedrooms or capacity to do a first floor extension. Even houses that don't fit the bill but would do for a year or two aren't coming up at the moment. There is no rental market in the area we wish to move to, so that isn't an option either. We have to move within the next year as we'll be applying for my eldest's secondary school place in Oct 2021.

An added complication to this is that the great mortgage deal we had in September when lenders were looking at annualised earnings is no longer on offer. Lenders are now looking at just the last 3 months payslips. Our household income varies massively during the year, so right now we can borrow a lot less than we could a few months ago, and next Spring, under the current lending criteria, we will be able to borrow 100k more which would get us a 'forever' house.

So financially, our ideal would be to purchase in Spring. Although I worry leaving it till then could mean we miss the deadline altogether to move before school applications as that only leaves about 6 months and that's not long when you think about how often sales fall through and the hold ups that could happen. Plus given that we originally started trying to move in March so now I’m very wary of unforeseen delays.

The people who want to offer on our house understandably want to complete before the stamp duty holiday deadline and are pressing our agent to know whether we would be willing to break the chain. They have a cash buyer for their property (developer) so things could potentially move quite quickly on their end. This is the first and only offer we’ve had in the 2.5 months we’ve been on market for, so I don’t want to assume we could get another buyer quickly if this fell through. But then, I think we would see a lot more interest if we lowered the asking price a bit, which we would be able to do in the new year.

We have the option to stay with family short term whilst we house hunt. But we aren't sure whether we want to break the chain. One the one hand, it puts us in a great position to buy when the next house comes along that works for us. On the other hand, our prefered option would be to protect our current house, as if everything falls through and for whatever reason we end up not being able to make a move happen, we quite like our current house.Breaking the chain makes me feel a bit nervous and like it could be a bit of a gamble.

The right house for us could come on the market any minute, and in the current market the local agents aren't taking offers seriously if you aren't proceedable or under offer yourself. I just can't guarantee to our buyers that we can work to their timeframe of the end of march stamp duty deadline.

My husband thinks we shouldn’t accept any offers unless the buyer is happy to wait for us to find somewhere. I think that anyone looking to buy in the next month or so is going to want to complete before end of March.

Anyway if you've managed to read through all of that and can make sense of our situation, what would you do in this situation? A lot of this is so circumstantial with a lot of "What if's" (plus baby brain!) that it's making it quite hard for me to think straight about it.

Do we keep a buyer so we can continue to look for houses even though we might not be able to work to their deadline? Or do we pause on selling our house until late winter / early Spring when (hopefully!) there will be more housing stock, and we will have significantly more budget?

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HapHap · 17/11/2020 07:17

You have a proceedable buyer, I would 100% agree to break the chain.

The sale will be done and dusted, you'll be in a better position to buy and you may well find the dream house in the next few months and only have a short gap of time staying with family/renting.

Think long term, and try not to get bogged down with overthinking and what ifs Flowers

We broke the chain and I'm so glad we did. I would rather have some short lived stress than months and months potentially not being able to sell and having to reduce price etc.

SheWouldNever · 17/11/2020 07:36

What about the option of finding a buyer in the next few months who is happy to work to an agreement that if we can’t complete before the stamp duty deadline, we’d knock the equivalent off the sale price? Is that a thing that people do or would that just be weird? In April I think we’d be happy to knock the £10k or so off the house because I’m anticipating prices will adjust in line with the stamp duty adjustment anyway (just as they all inflated slightly when it first came in), and we’ll have more lending budget to play with in April anyway so it would be a relatively small cost to swallow for the sake of not being rushed.

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HapHap · 17/11/2020 08:08

To be honest I'd be proceeding with the actual, proceedable buyer you have right now, not the 'unicorn' buyer in your mind that fits your criteria that may never materialise, if that makes sense.

You have to keep positive and making pro active decisions to move forward, otherwise you start stagnating, drowning in risk and worry!

Our plans are 100% different to what I initially wanted, and I'm prone to overthinking and anxiety, but it's totally worth it to proceed and have the house sold.

Iseeyoulookingatme · 17/11/2020 08:49

Either sell and move in with family until you find a suitable house or take your house of the market. We were going to do this but found a suitable house 2 weeks later. At the moment house selling is taking at least 4 months so your sellers might not actually be in before the stamp duty deadline anyway.

NoSquirrels · 17/11/2020 08:59

@SheWouldNever

What about the option of finding a buyer in the next few months who is happy to work to an agreement that if we can’t complete before the stamp duty deadline, we’d knock the equivalent off the sale price? Is that a thing that people do or would that just be weird? In April I think we’d be happy to knock the £10k or so off the house because I’m anticipating prices will adjust in line with the stamp duty adjustment anyway (just as they all inflated slightly when it first came in), and we’ll have more lending budget to play with in April anyway so it would be a relatively small cost to swallow for the sake of not being rushed.
Well you can offer that to this buyer, surely?

How does it benefit you at all to turn this buyer down now - I’m genuinely puzzled? You’ll just be in exactly the same position in a month or two months but with less time.

The longer you delay now, the greater the chance you will not be in a property by next year.

SheWouldNever · 17/11/2020 09:08

@NoSquirrels yes I'm including offering that to this buyer in my thinking. We are still in talks with them via our agent, trying to work out whether their rush to move ASAP is purely to do with the stamp duty holiday or if there are other factors that would be less easy for us to accommodate.

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hgaj · 17/11/2020 10:05

It might also be worth double checking the details of your preferred school's admissions process. My local authority allows you to use a new address so long as you've moved by the 10th Dec. That extra month might help!

MacbookHo · 17/11/2020 10:12

I’d ring the admissions dept of the council of your first-choice school and double check when the FINAL deadlines are. I seem to remember there’s sometimes a window. (Forgive me if I’m wrong.)

roxyrocky · 17/11/2020 13:06

Sounds like you know exactly where you need to be for catchment. If it was me I would be very proactive.
Ring all agents in the new area, form a good relationship with them and keep in touch with them over the next few weeks. Have a good chat about what the market is like. Offer them a bonus if they find you the right house?
They may know if anything new is preparing to come to the market or if a sale is about to fall through. This could be for rent or sale.
you could also put a letter through doors in the catchment area. Other threads on here about how to word it.

augustusglupe · 17/11/2020 13:33

It's always a scary time. We were getting ready for yet another Christmas in our house when out of the blue we had an asking price offer. We were relocating and had planned it for years, but when we'd actually sold, I had a last minute panic that I didn't want to go, yet knowing that it was the right time to move. We had to pack up and get out, that's what happens. We moved 4 months later and went into rented, still here 2 years later and still looking for the right property. It was hard but relocation was and still is the right thing for us.
Basically, if your hearts not in it then you have to say. I still miss my old house, but it was definitely time to move. If you're this hesitant now, maybe it's just not the right time.

SheWouldNever · 17/11/2020 13:58

Final school deadline is 10th December for address changes so we do have a bit more leeway if things change / go wrong with a house purchase - not sure I could deal with the anxiety of it going right to the last minute, but at least there is that back up time if needed.

We've outlined our position to the buyer and they have said they are happy to wait for us to find somewhere, so we have accepted their offer. I'm sure they will still put the pressure on to move before March, but at least we have been open about where we stand and now have at least a few weeks to house hunt before we would need to start talking about potentially breaking chains or losing our buyer.

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MacbookHo · 17/11/2020 15:15

Yay! That’s all good news.

Now do that thing they’re always doing on Location Location Location, where they put notes through the doors of all the houses they like. Lots if people might be thinking about selling during the stamp-duty freeze but not got round to it.

GOOD LICK!

MacbookHo · 17/11/2020 15:15

OMG, good LUCK even. Cringe!

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