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New builds - yay or nay?

110 replies

JoanApple · 18/10/2020 17:45

Just that really...

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LovesFood1987 · 18/10/2020 20:39

Absolutely love our new build. It's a local developer, we worked out the price per square meter and it was the same as the older houses in our area so not at all overpriced, we also got our stamp duty paid by developer (£17k) and they are brilliant with aftercare. Been here a year, totally love it. Have heard horror stories about large national developers though so I guess it's on a case by case basis.

Oh and previously had a listed cottage and a 40 year old house... Both lovely in their own ways but a lot more maintenance in both time and money.

Sockbogies · 18/10/2020 20:42

I'm not entirely convinced Victorian properties are the perfect solution - having lived in one the insulation was appalling, parking non existent and gardens also a tiny yard. Having said that - they are solid, unlike my Persimmon home which had 9 plumbing leaks over the time we lived there, along with "oh this should be easy but unfortunately...." almost every time we needed maintenance work done. Non standard fittings, end of line kitchens (so if you needed something replaced, forget it). Finally capped off with NHBC having to do essential remedial safety work (missing fire proofing between houses being the main culprit) on at least 50% of the estate. So I wouldn't touch them with a housing barge pole.

misstoblerone85 · 18/10/2020 20:46

We really like ours. Bought off plan nearly 3 years ago, took another year for us to move in. Really good layout, 4 double bedrooms, all with room for actual furniture.

When we were looking any other house with the same space was around £30-£50K more and needed work which priced us out. Since we bought the same house type is now going for around £50K more than we paid. We also didn't use the help to buy.

We are on the edge of the estate, our garden isn't overlooked, no houses behind us and they will never be built there.

Downsides are a smaller garden (but not tiny) and we have to pay an annual charge to maintain the grounds. But we have a huge play park and open parkland right behind our house which we use nearly every day. We had some snags which the company have mostly put right, some work was cancelled just before lockdown but they are sorting the last bits over the next few weeks.

We have the room to turn the garage into a separate downstairs room or build a sunroom at the back to turn it into our ideal home. I don't think we will ever move.

movingagain20 · 18/10/2020 21:05

This conversation is always so frustrating, especially when the usual cliches are thrown down and from hear say not direct experience. "My uncle says" "I've heard" "my carpenter told me". You have to research yourself, and the individual development.

New builds are not built equally, you can't group all new builds together any more than you can old houses.

I look at more modern houses and have chosen new builds for the following reason:

  1. I had a small deposit and didn't want to nor have the cash to do work, I wanted it perfect from day one.
  2. more energy efficient, cheaper bills, better for the environment.
  3. modern functional living, I want multiple toilets and bathrooms, I want a modern layout with a mix of open plan and segregation, in most houses I looked at I preferred the flow of new builds even if the rooms were smaller.
  4. I wanted a double garage and private double driveway, this was easier for us to find in our budget with modern houses.
  5. if you negotiate a good deal (we had flooring, upgraded appliances etc) there is very little initial outlay, no rewiring, boiler or carpeting you may have to do for an older house.

Not all new builds are small, or have management fees, or are over crowded with poor parking. Not are all timber frame, ours is traditional build. Mortgage companies would lend on houses supposedly "thrown up". Just as with any house search your budget will determine how much space you will get, we do not have a small house, perhaps we'd have got "more house for our money" with an older one, but this house is a perfect size I don't need more, space is one criteria and I'm not personally looking for the biggest house I can get, I wouldn't want too big I have an optimal size. We do not have a management company. We are in a cul de sac that is not over looked with parking for 6 cars as do the houses around us so parking is not an issue. Yep you pay a bit of a premium, but remember it is brand new, people negotiate deals when houses need work, you'd pay more for a refurbed house so why wouldn't you for a new build? New builds DO increase in value, when the property market is stable, they increase, yes they can be a bit more of a risk in the short term in an unstable market, no they may not bring as much of a return as an older property. New houses aren't like new cars. And if it's a longer term purchase, as ours is, I don't think about it, we made a profit in our last house despite selling within 3 years: the areas they're built in are often desirable in my experience. And London new build flats are a whole other kettle of fish when it comes to value and space etc vs the rest of the country, they can't be discussed in the same conversation.

Snagging is an issue, as you would expect with anything made by people, mistakes can happen. The trick is to research the site to assess customer service, not the developer as it differs massively even within a developer. Our site has the site manager who won site manager of the year last year, he wants to keep that reputation. We booked a snagger, we had 60 insignificant snags listed (didn't see most of them myself) every one of them was dealt with within 2 weeks, the customer service from the team and tradesmen has been brilliant. This is a well known national builder.

I have lived in 4 new builds and loved every one of them. The biggest compromise for me, although this is budget related of course but I accept I'd have likely gotten bigger with an older property, is garden size. But that was a compromise I was willing to take and like many new builds our development comes with lots of green spaces.

I hope I covered all the usual qualms, nope they're not for everyone, but considering hundreds of thousands are built they are suitable for many, no need for such snobbery.

And to reiterate, YOU CANT GENERALISE!

Blusteryday2020 · 18/10/2020 22:00

@Catycity Redrow. So possibly the biggest?! But we’ve been impressed by them every step of the way and I guess they’ve got the money to buy land in good postcodes.

pincertoe · 19/10/2020 05:39

We bought one and don't regret it but didn't really have a choice as couldn't sell our old home (for enough for a deposit) so part ex' was essential.

Yes our garden is tiny as we are three story so house isn't that wide. Rooms are all a decent size though. Parking is an issue for visitors made worse by us being a few mins walk from town centre and train station so we also get others parking (inconsiderately) on the estate.

Its a nice estate though and we are really happy here with no plans to move.

pincertoe · 19/10/2020 05:40

Oh and ours is really well insulated with thick walls, we can't hear neighbours and they assure us they can't hear us.

Marieg10 · 19/10/2020 06:41

Have a look at the Facebook page "Persimmon Unhappy Customers". That tells you all about the shocking build quality and how widespread it is.

Friend bought from another large builder. Luxury price level and I was utterly appalled at the build quality. It is another National scandal unfolding

Bubbletrouble43 · 19/10/2020 07:15

I love my new build. Mainly because it's soooo energy efficient. Worth bearing in mind.

Bubbletrouble43 · 19/10/2020 07:16

Disclaimer mine is a smallish local building company on small estate not a large one. Have friends in both wimpy and persimmon homes, both with serious faults. Mine had no faults at all.

Themostwonderfultimeoftheyear · 19/10/2020 07:21

New builds can vary massively. We are in one and it is such a lovely development. It is a garden village so minimum of 60% green space. The pavements are lovely and wide and lined with trees and other plants. We have several natural play areas and a kitchen garden. The houses are inspired by the arts and crafts movement and have high ceilings and good sized rooms. They are also spaced well apart. The sound insulation and heat efficiency are brilliant. Good sized front gardens too.

Admittedly it is the only new build development we have seen like this. Most do have the houses too close together and narrow pavements with not much in the way of a front garden. However if you can find a good development then don't be put off just because they are new.

Vello · 19/10/2020 07:24

Nay. Tiny, ugly boxes with no shops and no pub.

I've seen the odd one that's nice, but in general, horrible. I do like the old mill redevelopments and if I were 15 years younger I would have liked one of those, but new houses I find just depressing.

Canyousewcushions · 19/10/2020 07:25

Nay. I was a lodger in one and it was awful. Doors didn't fit properly and jammed, it was small and bland. Then the boiler broke due to a construction fault. Gardens are small and they're often on massive estates which means you are set up to need to drive somewhere for everything.

It's not an easy option- there will be a lot of snagging and probably fighting with the builder to get it all resolved.

Laburnam · 19/10/2020 07:30

No, soulless estates, gardens the size of postage stamps with neighbours right on top of you. Often don’t have your own proper driveway and not enough room to compensate for car parking

Oblomov20 · 19/10/2020 07:54

I hate new builds. I've never seen a quality one. Paper thin walls.

unicornparty · 19/10/2020 07:58

No, I'd never live in one however desperate I was.

SnakesOrLadders · 19/10/2020 08:03

Nay a big massive one at that.
Never again - tiny overlooked gardens, houses packed in, not enough parking, had to get builders back again and again for faults, months of mess and disruption whilst they finished roads/paths off.
Word to the wise - avoid Strata at all cost terrible company.
Hated living there luckily we moved after a year and didn’t take a loss like we expected to actually went up slightly.

goisey · 19/10/2020 08:14

I find them too cramped, too close together, off poor construction quality and over-priced.

I hate the look of them too.

NastyBlouse · 19/10/2020 08:18

Broadly, nay. Although it does depend. The huge estate ones by big-name developers aren’t up to much, in my experience. The usual; too-small rooms and gardens, tight parking, thin walls, stuffy due to badly designed efficiency measures, and often leasehold issues.

OTOH one of my brothers bought a new build that was one of just four houses built by a local builder and it is really impressive in terms of design, build quality, layout and so on.

So I think it’s a YMMV situation really.

Pickpick101 · 19/10/2020 08:53

Depends they seem expensive per square metre for what you would get 60s/70s houses in some cases crazily so. I wouldn't be against one if the price was right. I know quite a few have said they are small the plots are but that's because of national planning policies , new houses are roughly the same size they were 70 years ago . There will be some badly built new houses but the Victorian also had bad builders , that bad alot has been pulled down.

Maybenexttime08 · 19/10/2020 09:03

We are buying a new build. It is lovely and spacious inside, on a nice estate, and we can afford it. While character of course is lovely, as are massive gardens, sadly not all of us can afford everything on our wish lists.

sarge89 · 19/10/2020 09:13

We bought a new Bloor home last October. We love it. Build quality is great, snagging list was tiny, builders have all been lovely. I have owned a new-build before and it didn't come close to this. Definitely recommend.

JoanApple · 19/10/2020 16:11

Thanks @sarge89. Anyone else gone with Bloor?

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JoanApple · 19/10/2020 16:11

Also, has anyone haggle on price? Is that doable for new builds?

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