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Unkempt garden next door

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Herewego83 · 15/10/2020 21:52

Hi all, hoping for some advice/perspective please! DH and I are planning to make an offer on a house at closing date tomorrow. We are first time buyers, currently renting in London and looking to move to Scotland. It's a large detached house in a beautiful location with lots of things going for it, but one drawback is the next door garden which is completely overgrown. We asked the owners about the neighbour - he is apparently very quiet and friendly but in poor health and so his house and garden have become unkempt over time. I am getting cold feet I think because I'm worried the situation may worsen over time and cause unnecessary stress for us, particularly if we try to sell the house in future. I also worry that having to look at a messy garden every day might get me down/irritate me. On the other hand the house and location are great and I wasn't worried about the neighbour until tonight, so wondering if it's just cold feet? I have form for getting anxious ahead of making big decisions...

What do people think? Am I overthinking this or should we walk away?

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Herewego83 · 15/10/2020 23:00

I'm pretty taken aback by the number of mean responses I'm getting here. Hope everyone feels better for attacking a nervous stranger on the internet. Many thanks to those who genuinely offered kind advice, I really appreciate it. Don't think I'll bother looking for friendly advice on here again

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DuesToTheDirt · 15/10/2020 23:01

The garden next door to us is pretty neglected but I don't much care. Thd owner obviously doesn't enjoy gardening, and there have been no other issues. Oh, and do people seriously look after their neighbours' gardens? It's enough work doing one.

Ours is lovely thanks to me, but would probably look the same as next door if I were hit by a bus, given DH's lack of interest in maintaining it

purpleme12 · 15/10/2020 23:04

Oh dear people are very sensitive on here today

There was one post that was straight talking shall we say so how was there so many responses which were mean on here?
I can't see that you've been attacked on this thread at all

SBTLove · 15/10/2020 23:05

I’d be more concerned that no one locally has offered this man any support, hardly friendly. Where I live we have community programmes that would help him out, maybe you could start one OP 😉

SBTLove · 15/10/2020 23:07

@Herewego83
Friendly advice isn’t just ppl agreeing with you, you asked for opinions therefore you will get a mixed response.

Flatpackback · 15/10/2020 23:07

If it's just plants I'd ignore it but if it was full of discarded items, junk and rubbish. Plants can be cut back and your neighbour may accept help with that. rubbish & junk will continue to accumulate though, you won't change that habit

RHTawneyonabus · 15/10/2020 23:09

Hello. We have a neighbours with VERY overgrown garden. So far it’s caused a few minor probs but really not show stoppers. It’s annoying because of weeds such as bindweed that keeps coming over and we’ve had to cut some trees that grew into our garden at 45 degree angles. The owner was very undecided about us doing this but in the end we just cut our side and it was fine. It’s also caused pressure on our other neighbours brick wall to the point t where it’s come down but hopefully that’s not and issue for you. It doesn’t look very nice but to be honest I never notice it now and it has very little impact on us. Hope that helps.

Flamingolingo · 15/10/2020 23:11

That could be our house - our next door neighbour has a completely wild and overgrown garden. It’s slightly exasperating, but he’s a really lovely (slightly reclusive) man. We get on well. He has all sorts of wildlife in his garden, we have no slugs whatsoever - I assume he has an abundance of hedgehogs.

Herewego83 · 15/10/2020 23:12

@RHTawneyonabus thanks, that's really helpful

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Herewego83 · 15/10/2020 23:13

@Flamingolingo Hedgehogs sound lovely! Thanks

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DespairingHomeowner · 15/10/2020 23:14

Count your blessings friends - next door have put a SOFA in back garden, been there for a month

Not Rattan ... old skool white leather

Looking forward to moving so I can celebrate by changing my username Grin

OP: good luck with the move, sounds like a big change for you

Flamingolingo · 15/10/2020 23:15

And fox cubs. And an abundance of birds, including a family of green woodpeckers.

Chumleymouse · 15/10/2020 23:22

And rats

HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 15/10/2020 23:25

If the garden is over grown then chances are they don't use it often. I'd prefer that to the teen boy who's moved in with his grandma next door who has his mates rounds, music full blast and smoking weed swearing in his garden so I don't feel Dd can use it.

What sort of overgrown is it? Just grass etc then good for nature and reframe your thinking maybe stealthily chuck some wildflower seeds over the fence to make it prettier. Unkempt with broken bikes and sofas dumped in it is a different story.

I'm not into gardening, have a pond and wildflower area, generally keep on top of the lawn in spring/summer when I'm using the garden but leave it to nature when I'm not using it during Autumn/winter. Neighbours are the opposite with a tidy, well planned garden and feed birds and between us our gardens support a huge variety of creatures.

Flamingolingo · 15/10/2020 23:25

We live in a city, there are rats everywhere (especially because where we live there was an individual feeding them for many years). And we back onto open parkland. So the rats don’t come from him per se.

Fatted · 15/10/2020 23:30

I'm with @Ariela on this. You should be more worried about the fact he's ill and highly likely to be no longer living in the house soon. Then you have to worry about the new neighbours. I also think it's sad no one has helped him.

I lived in a street with a few elderly residents. They had a good support network in place for each other. Unfortunately, they all passed away within 18 months of each other and the street very quickly went downhill.

giggly · 15/10/2020 23:33

I’d be more concerned about how much more over the asking price I’d be offering if it’s going to closing date . Scottish house buying is very different from the English system which I’d assume you are aware of.
I’d be checking with the solicitor that there have not been any issues with the sellers who I agree would be likely to keep quiet.
Anyway bushes are made to be trimmed Wink
Good luck with your offer and potential welcome to Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Defenbaker · 15/10/2020 23:42

I think that no matter where you buy your first house, there are likely to be some problems, because first time buyers rarely have the sort of cash to buy a large, well maintained, detached house, with a large secluded garden, in a lovely area with great neighbours. In any case, even if money is no object, neighbours can still cause problems.

As a first time neighbour you will probably have to compromise on some things. You're really fortunate to be able to afford a detached property, and maybe the neighbour's overgrown garden has put other people off, so you might be able to buy it for less than similar houses. If the gardens are a reasonable size there are lots of ways to screen off the view of the neighbour's garden, but a nicer solution would be to get to know your neighbour, and if he's a nice chap but just can't manage the garden, offer help to keep it in order. In time, perhaps he will move away if he can't cope with the house/garden, but if not perhaps you could offer to buy part of his back garden - that could work well for you, if you enjoy gardening.

Overgrown gardens are good for wildlife, but well tended gardens can also attract wildlife, without the abundance of self seeding weeds and invasive species such as bindweed. There is room for compromise with large gardens, as you have room to leave a patch to go wild, perhaps right at the back of the garden.

Provided the garden isn't piled high with rubbish/rusty cars etc it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but I would steer clear if it was basically a rubbish dumping ground.

Viviennemary · 15/10/2020 23:44

Somebody on another thread mentioned a bar in the garden of next door to a possible house purchase., That would put me off loads more than a messy garden. Loud parties and karaoke. No thanks.Grin

Catsup · 15/10/2020 23:49

How bad is bad? Long grass will only get so long before it gets to about 1-2ft then topples over. Not ideal but hey ho. Bags of rubbish, old tin cans, odd bits of crap will attract rats and potentially stink in summer.

rainbowninja · 16/10/2020 00:14

If you love the house I wouldn't let the neighbours garden put you off. In our last house our neighbour never bothered with his garden. It looked a bit scruffy but it didn't bother us and he was just a single bloke who worked away a lot and wasn't interested in gardening. Didn't have any problem selling the place.

Dreading2020sSeasonFinale · 16/10/2020 00:48

I love my garden but I'm no Charlie Dimmock. We're in a semi and the neighbour's garden was really messy and overgrown, full of rubbish and old planks of wood, a few scattered bricks and dog poo. It didn't matter how much effort I put into my garden, making it both pretty and a bee paradise, next doors made it look... crap.
So when DH was out doing the lawn I asked the neighbour who we had befriended first if he wanted us to pop over and give his a trim. Neighbour said, great. So in order to mow the lawn I'm afraid I had to dispose of the rubbish, litter and junk first.
They were left with a lovely neat lawn and we had a nice space adjoining our garden. Job done.

Ltc2020 · 16/10/2020 01:10

OP I think it is your anxiety talking, as there are many proper things to genuinely worry about when buying a house but I think this is not one. I imagine in the same way it didn't both you when you went to view (because at the time I'm assuming you judged it to be non-important?), it won't bother a person in the future who comes to look. There' also no knowing if you bought a house next to a house with a nice garden, if the next owners of that property let their own garden fall into disrepair. It sounds like your mind is trying to protect you by overthinking every tiny thing (totally natural) but as such I don't think this is as much as a problem as you think it is

Suzi888 · 16/10/2020 03:45

I don’t know about where you are but here it’s against the law to have an unsightly garden.
It can be reported to the council and the person either has to cut it back or the council will do it and charge them/the cost will be added to their council tax.
“The council has powers under section 215 of the Town and Country planning act 1990 to issue notice requiring the property owner to make the land presentable.”
Though you’d be better if speaking to him first obviously.

JoJoSM2 · 16/10/2020 07:33

There are a couple of such properties in my area and nothing has changed in the 5 years that I’ve been here. I think it would bother me living next door even though the rest of the area is very lovely.