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fixtures and fittings? rangemaster style oven stay or go?

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kaykkies · 02/08/2020 18:02

Hi guys.

Buying a home that has a large rangemaster style oven.

The kitchen was custom designed by the owners and all units etc. were sized especially for the oven.. I'm not sure what kind of brand the oven is but my other half has assured me its expensive!

The description of the house was very brief and only mentioned 'a large bespoke kitchen with a range of units'.. No mention of any fittings.

The cooker is bolted to the floor/walls and has an on/off switch also installed to the wall beside it. Its gas operated and connected to a gas canister that is outside.

Thoughts on if or if not this would be included with the house??

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Awkwarddough · 02/08/2020 18:05

We’re currently looking at a house and the listing says ‘range oven available by seperate negotiations’ therefore it isn’t included. If it says ‘Space for double oven/washer/dishwasher etc’ assume they’re not included. If it doesn’t say anything I’d assume it was included, when you buy you’ll get a list of everything included eg curtain poles, light fittings etc. Otherwise just ask the agent.

kaykkies · 02/08/2020 18:12

starting to freak a little.

When the house was previously for sale it mentioned 'space for gas range cooker'

current owners selling have no mention of cooker in or not.. i will be pretty damn annoyed if its not included as there was no mention of it not being

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JoJoSM2 · 02/08/2020 18:45

Stuff that’s fitted is generally included. Ranges are freestanding. However, ranges do come in standard sizes so you’ll be able to replace. Alternatively, you can agree a price for having it stay if the owners don’t want to leave it for free.

BumbleNova · 02/08/2020 18:58

OP - it's freestanding so if you want it you will need to pay for it or buy a replacement.

Lightsabre · 02/08/2020 19:05

Just ask - you can always negotiate. I think it's unlikely they'll take it as they're extremely heavy.

IamwhoIsayIam · 04/08/2020 11:53

Does anyone know when to have this conversation? We are about to offer on a house with a similar style kitchen with range master. Do you mention it with your offer?

Mildura · 04/08/2020 12:40

Do you mention it with your offer?
Yes

It avoids confusion/disappointment further down the line, such as this.

Make your offer, with an explanation of what you're expecting to be included, which the vendors can either agree to or highlight which items are excluded.

JacobReesMogadishu · 04/08/2020 12:45

People definitely take ovens. When we bought this house the sellers tried to get me to pay £100 for a gas oven which looked to be 20 years old and probably wanted condemning. I said no, then they said they'd leave it anyway as it would cost them money to get disconnected. I said fine as I thought it would do until we got the kitchen refitted.

Walked in on the day we moved to find they'd taken it anyway. I was then 6 months without an oven!

NotMeNoNo · 04/08/2020 14:18

You just need to clarify it as early as possible so you don't get a surprise. It sounds like an LPG converted range cooker. If it is literally bolted down then it sounds like it should be included but estate agents can be a PITA about fixtures and fittings and make you get into unnecessary negotiations about the value of a second hand appliance. In my view these things should either be in the asking price or out of it.

If they do take it, there are loads for sale secondhand in any colour you like.

Feelingpoorlysick · 04/08/2020 14:24

If it originally said 'space for...' I would assume its not included. We bought ours seperately from the vendor.

CouldBeOuting · 04/08/2020 18:06

Are you sure it's bolted down? We have a range oven it is wired into the electric and connected to the gas but not bolted down. It would almost certainly be coming with us if we were to move. After all, the dishwasher is plumbed and wired in.... would you expect that to be staying?

When we bought this house, our solicitor said that we should not "expect" anything to stay apart from the bath, basin & toilet in the bathroom and the fitted units in the kitchen. The vendor did give a list of things she intended to leave and we had to agree to accept them. She wanted to leave the cooker and our solicitor did point out that we could refuse and ask for it to be taken (as we were first time buyers we didn't already have one so it was all good).

VictoriaBun · 04/08/2020 18:10

When we sold our house , we listed our Rangemaster as a separate negotiation, they already had one so we took it with us when we moved.

TaleOfTheContinents · 04/08/2020 18:40

We're moving into a similar house and asked when we viewed about the range cooker and also asked for it to be included when we made the offer. I would ask for it if I were you, OP.

Whenwillthisbeover · 04/08/2020 18:55

Highly doubt its bolted down, range cookers aren’t so you can clean behind and pull it out. It will be connected by standard gas and/or electric connections. Likely they are taking it. Range cookers usually come in standard sizes such as 900m, 1000mm 1200mm etc so no problem replacing one bough this decade.

kaykkies · 05/08/2020 22:10

@Whenwillthisbeover

Highly doubt its bolted down, range cookers aren’t so you can clean behind and pull it out. It will be connected by standard gas and/or electric connections. Likely they are taking it. Range cookers usually come in standard sizes such as 900m, 1000mm 1200mm etc so no problem replacing one bough this decade.
I said it was bolted down didn't I?

Also received word today. The cooker is staying.

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kaykkies · 05/08/2020 22:26

I am assuming things are very different where I live in Ireland as no one I consulted on this removes large wired/plumbed appliances. Certainly not any that would require a contractor to take away.

The oven is staying.. and i did not lie for those questioning that it was not bolted to the floor. It IS bolted to the walls and floor thank you.

IMO anyone's willing to hire all the appropriate contractors to disconnect/transport/store an oven + remove and refit a front door to get the thing out of the house is crazy.

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AlwaysLatte · 05/08/2020 22:31

I wouldn't assume appliances are included unless specified.

CouldBeOuting · 06/08/2020 09:20

I’m glad for you that you are getting the oven!

However, my large rangemaster oven (110 cm wide - don’t think they do a wider one) would not need a contractor to remove it. It didn’t need one to deliver and fit it! Turn off electricity and gas, disconnect, lower rollers (two screws at bottom), pull out. (I actually roll it out once a year to clean under and behind it anyway). Fits through the front door no problem. “Technically” you are supposed to have the gas connected by a corgi registered (in England) fitter but it’s just a bayonet fitting and easy to do. Perhaps yours is an Aga which I know is very different.

Either way enjoy your new home.

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