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Appraise this house please

75 replies

wholelottahistory · 21/07/2020 21:36

search.savills.com/property-detail/gbsvrsses190496

Totally love it and think I could put a good stamp on it. But the kitchen cant really become very open plan.
Its relatively cheap for this area....am I missing something else?

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wholelottahistory · 21/07/2020 22:43

@BarrelOfOtters love it!

Woah, £500k?

Kitchen isn't massive so a new one hopefully wouldn't be too much.

Lack of french doors bothers me too, and also the lack of connection of kitchen with the rest of the downstairs.

But we would not be able to make huge changes on budget and within listing regs.

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OhTheRoses · 21/07/2020 22:45

Mixed ages, listing, lots of extensions at various times. It will be very difficult to join it up iyswim. Is it on mains gas/does it have a septic tank?

TBF OP our house is a similar size and Arts and Crafts. Some of the interior resonated style wise. We rewired, replumbed, re-roofed, extended at the rear to create kitchen/family dining room/sitting room, repurposed some of the upstairs to create a dressing room and two extra bathrooms, modern security system. It was a lot more than £100,000 - double it then do it again.

What is the top valuation you would get if you make it perfect. Is it more than the purchase price and cost of renovations? Is it your forever home? Do you love it with your heart and soul? Does it fit with your life - schools, stations, family, interests?

waterandlemonjuice · 21/07/2020 22:46

I’d take out the crappy breakfast bar in the kitchen, add new curtains and carpets, new bathrooms, decorate. I think it could be stunning.

waterandlemonjuice · 21/07/2020 22:48

You can’t change layout or knock down walls but there is plenty you can do even with a listed building

MartinJD1976 · 21/07/2020 22:49

It looks like a lovely house but I think it all depends on how much you where stretching yourself to buy it. If you're well off enough to afford the upkeep and the heating then I would say go for it. It does look like it might be a bit cold, could do with underfloor heating.

wholelottahistory · 21/07/2020 22:50

I wouldn't envisage any extending or repurposing rooms per se.

Maybe not even replumbing. As someone said, its lived in now so cant be that bad.

Only thought rewiring as it's been 40 years.....

Re roofing would be a nightmare.

I dont mind living somewhere a little bit shabby around the edges when it's in a lovely location. It's good for schools, stations to london ok. Need to view and see if I love it.

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JoJoSM2 · 21/07/2020 22:50

It’s a charming house. For a listed property, it’s brilliant that it has 2 en-suites and walk-in wardrobes.

I agree that it’s likely to be freezing and probably not just in winter but in summer too (based on MIL’s similarly old, listed country house).

Personally, I’d also be put off by the fact that it has over an acre of grounds but it’s all smallish windows so there’s little relationship between the house and garden. I’d also want one of the spaces to be a big open plan family area but that wouldn’t be allowed so you end up with lots of sq footage but it’s all compartmentalised.

Given it’s 3000sq feet, 100k wouldn’t even touch it. I think 100k would be tight even if you were trying just to tart up an 80’s house of the same size. And work on listed properties is considerably more expensive.

BarrelOfOtters · 21/07/2020 22:52

Probably depends on whether you want to update it a bit and make it a bit more liveable or do a full scale renovation job,

We are living in a arts and crafts large semi. Quite happily living but.. it needs 2 new bathrooms, new kitchen and utility In an extension , new hot water cylinder, new carpets, completely replastered Nd painted, new woodburner ..New front door. .lots of shonky windows replaceD. It’s coming out at £200k.

caringcarer · 21/07/2020 22:53

Few pics of house and lots of views. Ask for brochure.

Areallthenamestaken · 21/07/2020 22:53

@JorisBonson

100% chance of a ghost.
Agreed. Definitely haunted.
averythinline · 21/07/2020 22:53

Apart from all the missing pictures and at least double cost of updates .. the space is quite disconnected how many are there of you and how do you live would you be eating tea in that drafty big dining room? Where are the kids doing homework???
It wouldn't work for us as a family and I've no desire to cut that much grass! Or clean all those cobwebs ..,l
I'd want to check out the shared access as well? Is there private road that needs maintenance...

averythinline · 21/07/2020 22:54

Apart from all the missing pictures and at least double cost of updates .. the space is quite disconnected how many are there of you and how do you live would you be eating tea in that drafty big dining room? Where are the kids doing homework???
It wouldn't work for us as a family and I've no desire to cut that much grass! Or clean all those cobwebs ..,l
I'd want to check out the shared access as well? Is there private road that needs maintenance...

Salome61 · 21/07/2020 22:57

I do think Heritage England should start allowing listed buildings to have discreet, internal secondary glazing. Our single glazed sash windowed listed house was so very cold in the winter we often kept our coats on all evening, sometimes I used to wear my hat too. I've just managed to sell mine and look forward to a winter without chilblains.

waterandlemonjuice · 21/07/2020 22:58

Ours is more than 3,000 sq ft and we refurbished it for about £100k. That was a new boiler, complete redecoration throughout, 2 new bathrooms (another was fine), new kitchen, basement conversion, new carpets, new curtains. We’ve just had a 10 year electrical safety check and it passed. But we didn’t need todo rewiring or the roof (we will do soon tho) or replace windows. It all depends too, you can spend £££ on Lefroy Brooks fittings or expensive appliances or much less on cheaper brands.

Runnerduck34 · 21/07/2020 22:59

Its gorgeous, good area, loads of character. Listed comes with some restrictions and of course it won't be insulted to modern standards but Id prefer it to a modern house any day.

waterandlemonjuice · 21/07/2020 23:00

Oh new utility room and appliances and new boot room too

Eaumyword · 21/07/2020 23:00

Gorgeous, handsome house.
But, it looks like single not double or secondary glazing. In a large Listed house, you either face utterly freezing misery in Winter, or a complete fortune to get sympathetic glazing/windows hand crafted by mermaids and unicorns (or at least that's what it must have been made by when you see the quote - speaking from experience!)
Having Grade 2 Listed status usually means outside can't be altered, but this house has what look like some internal features that may be protected. What that means is some bod has to come and agree what improvements/alterations you want to make and it pushes the cost right up.
We always felt ours was a money pit and never really felt we truly owned it, we just got to pay for it until such times as we gave up! We now have a beautiful old property with loads of original features, but not Listed. Yes it's cold in Winter, but at least we have double glazing and central heating! It's not Mitford/Jilly Cooper romantic when it's cold, trust me!
The kitchen beams look a bit poorly? Might need treating. Is that wiring hanging over the kitchen cupboard too?
Kitchen is small by modern standards and most rooms look like they need cosmetic revamping. Watch out for things like woodwork in the attic/loft space. We had a serious problem with that. The sitting room is fab, I love it.
I'd personally never have a shared drive. Wouldn't bother some of course.
I wouldn't want a tennis court either - friend of mine just had hers resurfaced and it was £10k.
Bottom line? You'd need it to be a labour of love and have deep pockets (lots of contingency money!)

Strawberrypancakes · 21/07/2020 23:04

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DianaT1969 · 21/07/2020 23:04

If you do get it, look out for the promised £10k government grants for home insulation.

Eaumyword · 21/07/2020 23:07

Sorry, woodworm! Meant to say - good luck with whatever you decide!

JoJoSM2 · 21/07/2020 23:09

@waterandlemonjuice That sounds very cheap. Did you do some of the work youselves? Or was it a few years ago?

waterandlemonjuice · 21/07/2020 23:14

JoJo, no, all professionals, we did it gradually over about 5 years. But no rewiring or building work, that probably kept the cost down.

Alsohuman · 22/07/2020 00:05

@Salome61

I do think Heritage England should start allowing listed buildings to have discreet, internal secondary glazing. Our single glazed sash windowed listed house was so very cold in the winter we often kept our coats on all evening, sometimes I used to wear my hat too. I've just managed to sell mine and look forward to a winter without chilblains.
They do. Ours is 400 years old and Grade ll listed. All our windows have secondary glazing.
Squirreltamer · 22/07/2020 00:22

Don’t know what pictures the other posters are looking at but other than the small stained glass window they all have secondary glazing on them?

I can see lots of old surface mounted pipework and electrics so I imagine it will need lots of work/tinkering.

Otherwise looks nice, looks like the brick work may need pointing at some point too.

Squirreltamer · 22/07/2020 00:41

Bit of damp in the pink room lower bookcase and behind the tv as well. Unsure if there is a filter but some of the beams look a bit green in places which would be very odd... must be a filter... hopefully.
Secondary glazing on the sash looks a bit wonky, but could of just been put back on the wonk.
Overall unless the photos are hugely deceptive the house looks well cared for it a bit rough around the edges but some people this is how they like it. Paint looks like eggshell on all the walls so could hide a few sins!