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Does no one want a bungalow?

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Chaletbungalow · 13/07/2020 12:26

I have my bungalow up for sale.

Every viewer we have had has loved it but as it is on a road with huge 3 storey houses and it has a good sized plot similar to the other houses
Every viewer has wanted to knock it down and build a big house on the plot.

The problem is about 15 years ago I tried to do what other potential buyers want to do and that was to knock it down and rebuild.
The problem was first finding an architect who would actually deal with the local planning department. Once they knew the planning department the architects refused to touch it.

Eventually found an architect out of the area.
I would put in plans of what I thought was a sensible house.
The planning officer would say to change certain things. I would tell my architect what needed changing. The revised plans would be submitted then there would be something else that needed changing etc etc then they would say it needed to change again and what they described was the first plans I showed them. Then the whole thing would start again.

This went on for about 2 year before I gave up. It was like dealing with a group of people who were pathological liars and you couldn’t trust what they said.
No one would believe me when I told them what they did or said.
My architect tried to deal with them at one point to no avail and told me to give up and refused to deal with them again.

Soon after I had given up they met their match with another person who had tried and succeeded on appeal to get planning. I won’t go into details but it culminated in virtually all of the planning department being dismissed.

We did go ahead and put in for planning at one point (unfortunately I couldn’t go to the meeting otherwise I would have spotted the errors and pulled it out of the meeting on the night)
The planning officer we were dealing despite having all the figures and room sizes put down her own version for heights of rooms so it looked like the height of the house would look like a tower block.
I.e ceiling height for the ground floor was 2.4m. Ceiling height that was put before committee was 24m. Then it was drawn so it looked like the house spread up to the boundary on either side.

It was a complete mess.

Don’t get me started on the cubic footage. Even basic maths didn’t add up. Eg living room was put down as eg 24m height x 6 metres width x 10m length=1,159,997 cubic metres

The problem I am having is their refusal is on my planning history and because of this the people who want to buy the place are seeing this and don’t want to proceed.

They don’t see the ridiculous rehashed plans and the made up figures that didn’t add up which led to the refusal.

A development has since gone up down the road on what was green belt land and other people have extended to the side and out the back and our other ndn has had a massive side and back extension so I am thinking that if someone came along now with a hopefully more sensible planning dept they would get their plans through.

Otherwise how do I get someone who actually wants to live in the place as a bungalow without them looking at it and going down the development potential route

Or someone to look at the history of the planning department and realise that the refusal was not because they objected to any house being built on the plot but because of the fictitious height and spread of the plans.

Unfortunately because of new practices you can’t talk to the planning department anymore

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WhoWouldHaveThoughtThat · 03/09/2020 07:40

I might be interested, have you got a link.

Thanks

WhoWouldHaveThoughtThat · 05/09/2020 11:24

Guess you managed to sell it.
Well done and good luck with the move. 👍

sunshinesupermum · 05/09/2020 15:50

Chaletbungalow last posted on 2nd September. What makes you think she has sold in the past 3 days WhoWouldHaveThoughtThat?

RestorationInsanity · 05/09/2020 16:38

How big is the annexe OP and is it fully independent? What's the rental market like in your area? If you are looking to sell and downsize to release cash, could you move into the annexe and rent the rest out for six-12 months to bring in cash quickly and then look to sell whenever the time comes that your DH is no longer here. Am very sorry about your sad and stressful circumstances.

WhoWouldHaveThoughtThat · 05/09/2020 16:42

@sunshinesupermum

Because they haven't posted a link and so I thought it was no longer for sale.

sunshinesupermum · 05/09/2020 17:57

WhoWouldHaveThoughtOfThat If you read the whole thread you'd know why the OP won't post a link.

Chaletbungalow · 08/09/2020 23:51

Sorry been away from the thread.

You really couldn’t make it up. I have been trying and getting no where in sorting out where several hundred pounds has disappeared to.

I really don’t know how this happens to us.
The account has been suspended whilst they investigate.

If things were not already bad this has made things a lot worse financially.

Sometimes I just think when will it end.

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LizzySkelding · 09/09/2020 00:24

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cleopatrascorset · 09/09/2020 08:33

"The terrace properties might seem like more of a house than my bungalow but as well as being much smaller, in a terrace, no off road parking they also don’t have any gardens."

This is maybe a London-centric view where everyone from the PM down lives in a terrace, but I'm not fussed about being detached or off street parking (though to be fair I'd want a garden). Whereas if I bought your place I'd be thinking WTF am I doing spending a million quid on a bungalow. Sorry, but I think in many cases your thread title is correct.

Seems like your best bet is to take it off market for a month and then relaunch with a new agent, description and photos.

Viviennemary · 09/09/2020 08:37

Is it a true bungalow or has it got upstairs rooms. If so that's probably why it's not selling.

Chaletbungalow · 09/09/2020 08:57

I am interested to know why you would prefer to spend £50,000 more on a terrace house with no garden, parking or front garden (door opens on to the street) than a 4 bed bungalow set back from the road (the type that has upstairs rooms, office, main bedroom and large en-suite). A detached 1 bed annexe, a driveway that can easily fit 6-7 cars and a large private rear garden for £50,000 less.

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Chaletbungalow · 09/09/2020 08:58

Also the terrace houses are so much smaller

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Imetagirlcrazyfortea · 09/09/2020 09:53

We are house hunting now and it seems that many people have a pre-conceived idea of what type of house they should live in. Some houses are flying off the shelves whilst others that objectively are similar in terms of square footage etc are sitting around.

I think lots of people don't want to think outside of the box with buying a house - e.g. if their friends and peers don't live in bungalows they won't think objectively "but this bungalow has the location, space, garden, parking that we want" because they mentally put all bungalows in a "no" box based on a preconceived idea about what bungalows are like.

What is useful is a really good agent who knows how to persuade people to think differently and widen their net.

sunshinesupermum · 09/09/2020 14:44

Chaletbungalow Sorry for your missing money. Just what you don't need at the moment. Personally I would remarket with a different EA and sell as a home, not a plot ripe for redevelopment.

cleopatrascorset did state hers was 'maybe a Londoncentric view' and she's right. I live in London and people pay ridiculous prices
for a narrow Victorian house in Fulham ,for example, with a tiny garden at the rear and on-street parking, if you can find a space at all. Location, location, location it seems.

Dizzywizz · 09/09/2020 21:50

Oh no @Chaletbungalow, that’s terrible about the kissing money - hope you get it sorted soon.
Like a pp I also think the problem is the upstairs rooms - so it isn’t a bungalow. We bought a bungalow due to my mobility issues... lots of people who want a bungalow want them because they don’t want stairs! The agent who sold ours to us said once you add stairs to a bungalow, you’re effectively wiping out its appeal.

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