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Bloody gloss paint!

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Aveisenim · 15/06/2020 22:14

Skirting boards, door frames etc need painting. Growing up with DGP they never stripped the paint first. My other half just told me it needs stripping back to be repainted. I've never decorated before.

What's the least messy way to do it? Property is about 15ish years old so not worries about lead paint. Have heard about heat guns but I'm epileptic so really don't want to use one as I'm worried it would be a safety hazard. OH will be helping but I want to do as much of it as possible myself.

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StoorieHoose · 15/06/2020 22:17

Just prime it and use eggshell rathe than gloss. No need to strip back

isseywith4vampirecats · 15/06/2020 22:19

we are in the middle of doing our kitchen and have just lightly sanded down the existing gloss on the doors and frames to give a key for the new paint and painted over them just get good gloss paint and do two light coats don't overload the brush because you get drips that way

Dailyjunglegrind · 15/06/2020 22:20

Heat gun or paintbrush on paint stripper ...take care with both as one is heat ( Like a super strong hair drier ) the other Skin burning chemicals.
Depending on the wood flat boards (vs an intricate wood design) .. heat gun is very effective with practice ; a lot of detailing use paint stripper.

suggestionsplease1 · 15/06/2020 22:20

Well I wouldn't personally faff around with stripping the paint that is there, but I am certainly not a perfectionist!

I would clean it and lightly sand it down so that a fresh coat takes better to it without drips. You can do that by hand or use one of those little mouse sanders. You don't need to be too full on about it...shoud be fine grain, not course grain.

tryingtocatchthewind · 15/06/2020 22:24

Depends how good you want it to look, I just slap it on over the top of what’s there. Looks fine to me but I’m not picky

EnidsCrochetCorner · 15/06/2020 22:25

Zinisser BIN 1-2-3 water based primer and sealer, have a look at the reviews on Screwfix. here

There loads of YouTube videos backing up the claims. I personally use it on all previously painted stuff, over oil based gloss too.

If you are worried about it, do a run of skirting that is usually hidden ie behind the sofa with the primer, then coat it with a water based eggshell or gloss. I use Valspar (I have been decorating my own homes for 30 years, I have used Dulux, Crown, Johnstones, B&Q's own etc, I love Valspar) this gives you chance to practise before moving onto more visible areas.

Hope that helps.

Gingernaut · 15/06/2020 22:27

If there are thick, gungy deposits, which prevent doors from closing or are sticking windows closed, then stripping is a good idea.

If there are only a couple of coats of paint, all the details can be seen and there are no issues with sticking doors and windows, then sanding down to key the surface, priming/undercoating and finally glossing the woodwork is good enough.

Aveisenim · 15/06/2020 22:47

Cheers, not many coats of paint. We haven't decorated since we moved in X number of years ago now as it was in good nick when we moved in and were happy to keep it as it was, especially as we had a newborn at the time and had no energy lol. Starting on the smallest room as the first project to see how it goes.

As an aside any tips for getting carpet up that has been directly glued on to wood? The old tenants glued carpet to the wooden shelves in the airing cupboard and it's been driving me crazy for years but I have no idea how to get it off.

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Aveisenim · 15/06/2020 22:54

Also. Will not be using gloss when I repaint! I hate the stuff Grin

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My0My · 15/06/2020 23:21

Does anytime actually use gloss now? I haven’t used it for 40 years! Eggshell is far superior and way easier to use.

With 15 year old woodwork, sanding down should be fine. Then undercoat or primer if bare wood exposed. Then paint on the eggshell. It’s tough and will not yellow or stain.

My0My · 15/06/2020 23:21

Replace the shelves. It would be easier!

strugglingwithdeciding · 15/06/2020 23:28

If not loads of paint just a quick sand and then paint , personally I have used water based eggshell and gloss as it doesn't yellow as much as oil based and dries quicker but you do have to prepare surface really well if putting onto already painted with oil gloss. Can't remember what exactly we did that but got some advice from a decorator or paint shop

BusterGonad · 15/06/2020 23:31

I wash, sand, prime with matt then use a water based gloss.

notangelinajolie · 15/06/2020 23:31

No it doesn't need stripping back. Just a good sanding. Then undercoat and paint.

BusterGonad · 15/06/2020 23:32

Sorry. Sand then wipe.

strugglingwithdeciding · 16/06/2020 00:04

Agree probably cheaper to replace shelves that try and get carpet off

Aveisenim · 16/06/2020 02:21

@My0My

Replace the shelves. It would be easier!
I did think of that, but I'd still have the very bottom shelf with carpet glued on as it looks like it's plaster? (I have a half sized airing cupboard not a full size... don't get me started lol!)

I have no idea what on earth the previous tenants were thinking when they glued the bloody carpet on.

... There are a lot of things that bug me about this house...!

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My0My · 16/06/2020 08:31

Well people do the weirdest things? Slats are better in an airing cupboard as they allow air to circulate. We had to replace our shelves too and slats work best.

cosmo30 · 16/06/2020 10:46

I used satin wood. Came out great and it was a one coat so covered really well, no drips either

Dailyjunglegrind · 16/06/2020 15:32

If the old paint is proper enamel gloss, you will need at minimum sand, prime before adding egg shell or emulsion paint, as the waterbased paint will not stick.. and the paint will soon peel/ flake off. Preparation is key otherwise you will have the joy repainting.

Carpet glue remover / heat gun and sharp chisel.
Or simply replace the boards - probably 100x easier.

Aveisenim · 16/06/2020 15:39

@dailyjunglegrind I have no idea what type of gloss it is as it's our first repainting of them since we moved in. Though if it's the same gloss as the bannister then that has rubbed off after a while (years) with cleaning wipes in certain areas of it?

Think I'm going to try the 3 in 1 primer/sealant thing and see how it goes. At least it's the smallest room so we can see how it turns out before trying any of the others.

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Aveisenim · 16/06/2020 15:39

Thank you for the advice by the way everyone :)

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MovingTowardsANewPositivity · 16/06/2020 15:51

I would give it a good clean, then sand all over with a fine (120 grit) sandpaper to get rid of the shine of the existing gloss paint and provide a good key for the new paint to stick to. Wipe it over with a damp microfibre cloth to remove dust and leave it to dry.

Then I would paint it with Screwfix No Nonsense water based satin paint, two coats with a light sand if needed between coats. I've only just discovered this paint and I love it, slap it on and then smooth out in the direction of wood grain, it gives a fantastic finish and is only £16.99 for 2.5 litres!

We have just painted an entire wooden conservatory (it can be used on both exterior and interior wood) and it is blindingly brilliant white and has a fantastic finish, even with all the fiddly panels and two relatively inexperienced painters Grin!

MovingTowardsANewPositivity · 16/06/2020 15:52

Oh, and get a good brush, it makes it so much nicer to do Smile.

Dailyjunglegrind · 16/06/2020 17:41

Are there any half empty tins in the cellar that would tell you the paint? If you can take a discrete chip of paint with you, good paint shops should be able to advise what type of paint it is.. and recommend approach to painting over.
My father drilled it in prep takes 2x as long as painting otherwise you end up with an ugly job that you’ll have you then have to stare at til you fix it again.

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