Floor plan advice please

[Nat87B]

Hi everyone

Was wondering if you could give me your ideas on how to turn a 3 bed into a 4 the rooms are large so the space is there just can’t get my head around where to move walls thanks 😊

My first thought is to turn bathroom into bedroom and then build a bathroom where the internal cupboards are with the door in the hall taking up some if the front bedroom but not sure if this is the best option thanks

Im not able to draw on your image but hopefully i can explain my suggestion!

Draw a line across from the bathroom door into the bedroom so the front bedroom is smaller. Then make the 4th bedroom from the leftover section of the bedroom and the cupboard space. Would need a bit of fiddling for the door ways to bedrooms 1 and 2 but would be a bigger room than using the bathroom.

Could you put room sizes on as that might help too?

But then the formed bedroom wouldn’t have a window which would not be great. Unless is a detached house - in which case you could punch an obscure glazed window in. I can’t see a way of doing it well. Moving a bathroom would be a headache in terms of resiting the soil pipe. Could you go into the loft?

Hard to tell without dimensions and context
Who are the rooms for?
What walls are structural?
I would be concerned over the balance of bedrooms to bathroom size
4bed house I would expect a larger bathroom or 2 bathrooms
Here are 2 options
The one with 3 bedrooms across the back would need the windows altering but would
The second moves the bathroom as you described but may have issues with soil stacks, ventilation and drainage
I think all options would be a bit mean when you squeezed the 4th bedroom in because using the bathroom/ door size for context the smaller rooms may struggle to get double beds in.

Is it a flat or a house? If the latter, could you do a loft conversion and put a bedroom & shower room up there?

Bedrooms need windows. You need to put in an extra window to gain an extra bedroom.

Unless you have no choice I would leave it be- room 4 is going to be tiny!

I would prefer 3 decent sized bedrooms to a 4 bed with 2 smaller ones.

Can you not go up into the loft?

Thanks everyone, detached house so can put a window in, can’t go into loft as not enough room and don’t really want to take up garden space as that limited for an extension, appreciate the thoughts I’m pretty torn on my boys just sharing the larger bedroom or trying to reconfigure it’s currently 14 x 12 excluding the bay. Thanks again

Never though of that! Thanks for the idea I’ll have to measure it up

In your place I’d just put them into the bigger bedroom with loft beds/a bunk bed. If you put in an extra bed room it’s going to feel very claustrophobic.

I'd split them to make 4 rooms. I know plenty of kids share and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. But I do think it's preferable to have a bedroom for each child. Especially for the teenage years where it's nice to have a bit of privacy. So if the dimentions allow for a master and 3 smaller kids bedrooms I'd go for it. Especially if you intend to stay in the house long term. One of wonkylegs plans look good. I would have thought it would be easier not to move the bathroom.

I'd be making an ensuite in that big master bedroom too.

This is what I'd do. So you have a downstairs toilet?

@ waspfig thanks really like this layout and yes to the downstairs toilet which to be honest is large enough to turn into a wet room

Thanks for all the comments

@LetItGoHome @wonkylegs thanks duff the ideas

For not duff!! Sorry

How do you get into what was the main bedroom waspfig?

As the house isn't very big, would it be better to have a bedroom downstairs?
You mention an extension downstairs?

Like this.

1. the bathroom doesn't need a window, so long as you can put a good extractor fan upwards through the ceiling.

2. don't waste the space over the lowest part of the staircase. The bedroom in the top left corner can have a few extra cubic metres of air space with a raised platform at either knee height or waist height to allow for a reasonable ceiling height on the lowest bit of staircase below.

Do you know which are the load bearing walls? That will determine a lot of what you can do. Moving bathroom plumbing will be the most expensive/disruptive part so if you can do it without moving the bathroom that will be the simplest option.