kitchen extractor with motor elsewhere so no noise ?

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I am considering using a kitchen extractor with motor located elsewhere to avoid any noise in our kitchen. I understand that miele and westin both offer this but are very expensive brands. Faber appear to offer similar at a more reasonable price. Wondered if anyone had tried this and had any pros/cons or any other brands. Thanks.

an alternative is something like this - they are much quieter and no ugly hood:

www.screwfix.com/p/manrose-xf150bp-25w-kitchen-extractor-fan-with-pullcord-white-240v

this is a super cheapie but just to give you an idea. Have similar in my kitchen and works well without the awful noise of extractors. BUT it took four goes to get one that was properly assembled and hadn't been dropped...

Does that have the power and silence of a kitchen extractor? Ours is integrated type so wont be seen so the appearance is irrelevant but it will be in a large kitchen/living/dining room and it is a gas range cooker.

I looked into this a lot! After studying the noise stats on the Westin site and a long conversation with their very helpful staff, it seems that locating the motor remotely doesn’t actually reduce the noise that much since 1) you still hear the noise from the motor through the extractor (ie the noise comes back down the duct) and 2) any small noise saving from having it further is offset by the fact that you need a stronger and noisier to compensate for the extra distance. Westin agreed.

We went for a Novy in the end (with ingrated, non remote motor) since its noise stats were slightly lower than Westin. Not sure the price was much lower mind you. Elica is worth a look too.

My parents have a Westin with remote motor and it’s a lot noisier than my Novy with integrated motor, but theirs is a 10 year older model so not really fair to compare.

Thank you so much I haven't heard of Novy so will have a look at them. I had tried to contact Elica but think they didn't have a help line - will recheck. Anyone else?

Elica Eliblock is available with an external motor and doesn't look very expensive
www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ELB60RM.html

their website is awful but they do a good glossy brochure. Ask them to send you a copy.

I think you will need a big canopy above the hobs with a grease filter you can easily clean, or the duct and canopy will get greasy.

Thanks PigletJohn - I was considering Elica. I think I would need at least 90cm as my cooker is 110cm. The extractor will be hidden inside a real chimney breast so would the grease still be an issue? Alternatively what do you think of menkens suggestions above?

with the type that are installed into your own canopy box, you can have two (or more) units fitted if you want. For a 1100mm hob I'd be thinking the box needs to be at least 1200mm to catch sideways spread. If the extractor is raised above the skirt of the box, so there is a sort of inverted tray, steam and fumes will drift up into it and then be sucked away. You can achive this with a deep cornice, or the box-maker can assemble it that way if he has a saw and a drill.

I only see a 600mm wide unit listed on the TLC website, but the Elica catalogue holds a much wider range. Email Elica and ask them to send you a copy.

grease - will form a layer on whatever it touches, so the grease filter needs to be at the start of the extraction pathway. Cabinets are usually made of laminated board which is durable and can be scrubbed, but ask for factory-laminated edges if they are an option. Paint and varnished wood are not so durable.

All exposed surfaces in your splashback, cheeks and chimneybreast need to be non-absorbent scrubbable, such as stainless steel, glass, hard plastic laminate, or tiles with dark grey grout (the grout will never be clean).

Grease fumes must not be allowed into the chimney itself as they will cause a filthy, smelly fire hazard. Rigid duct is preferable to the flexible convoluted hose as it is not made of dirt traps.

A kitchen fan needs to be much more powerful than an extractor hood, because it does not capture the steam and fumes at source. Ordinary fans do not include a grease trap that can be easily cleaned, though a few are available.

There is a table, somewhere, of hood power and fan power required, by room size.

All this talk of grease, it does depend what you cook. If you fry like it's the only way to cook, you'll need to take all the precautions, if you boil and roast everything then nothing will be dirty anyway.
I would second the issue of noise coming down the duct, you can get silencers to help with that but they aren't really good for kitchen extraction for the same grease reasons