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Rental property disagreement - help!

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Harper67 · 04/03/2020 14:20

Hello,

I’m really hoping someone might be able to help me or give me the benefit of their experience on an issue we’re having with a rental property.

I’ll try and explain everything as briefly and clearly as possible but it might be a long one.

We rented out our family home in September last year and moved to a different town, where we rented a property. We’re a family of 2 adults and 3 children under 2. So we’re landlords and tenants!

Shortly after moving house we identified a number of issues with the house, the conservatory leaked badly, was full of slugs and regularly had black mould which needed cleaning ( I think from condensation). Tiles on the kitchen floor was shattered and they were no longer adhered to the floor so we were told by the handy man that was sent out to replace individual tiles that it would continue to happen until the floor was replaced. One of my crawling twins sliced their leg on a tile. The hot water from the boiler was barely existent. The water case out Luke warm at best, we used to have to boil the kettle to make the babies baths hot enough. We were told by the engineer that did the gas safety check that the boiler was end of life and needed replacing 2 years ago. The shower was electric and also barely produced hot water. It was hanging off the wall and the water pressure was pretty non-existent. I could go on, but these were the major things affecting our quality of life.

Eventually the landlord approved someone to look at the conservatory, the first company wouldn’t touch it said it needed replacing and was end of life with several wholes in places. Second company removed a load of moss from one of the drainage pipes which stopped the leaking when it rained. It hasn’t stopped the slugs or condensation.

After 3 months and more cracked tiles he approved getting some new tiles in the kitchen, not ideal but safe now.

After 4 months of complaining and the letting agent taking a video of the temperature of the hot water from the boiler the landlord agreed to get it replaced. It took a month from him agreeing to it being done during which we had almost no hot water.

We’re chasing him about the shower, a friend of mine has looked at it and is confident the thermostat has gone, it’s a really old shower and you can’t get any consistent heat from it. As yet he hasn’t agreed to have anyone look at it. He can’t seem to understand why the boiler hasn’t improved the shower despite us explaining it’s not run off the boiler and is electric!!

Basically, we are in a 12 months tenancy (our own stupid fault, we thought that was the minimum) and we want to move out. My twins were premature and always have problems with their lungs and the conservatory was meant to be their playroom, but I can’t let them play in there very long and only after I’ve checked everywhere for slugs 🐌.

I’ve asked the letting agent if the landlord will agree to us leaving early and he will but with the stipulations that we pay the fee’s for the new tenants and we pay the rent until the new tenants move in. As landlords I can see this is reasonable as we want to terminate the lease early and I would want these things in place of our tenants wanted to leave early. However, we only want to move as the landlord has been so difficult. He takes weeks to reply to the letting agent about important things, he turns up at the house with minutes notice, he takes months to do things which are quite essential and we’re stuck with a house that isn’t fit for purpose as we can’t use one of the main rooms.

Are we stuck here (because we can’t risk paying rent on two houses) or is there a way through this?

Thanks so much if you’ve read this far!

OP posts:
Tatty101 · 04/03/2020 14:23

That's pretty standard for someone trying to end a lease early - sorry!

BritInUS1 · 04/03/2020 14:23

Speak to Shelter it sounds awful

BritInUS1 · 04/03/2020 14:24

Also be careful with babies and black mould

Northernsoullover · 04/03/2020 14:24

There are no fees for new tenants! Fees are banned. I would contact your Environmental Health department to see if they can help.

Campurp · 04/03/2020 14:28

Can you complain to the council about the landlord? These sound like issues that nobody should be paying to live under and you might find that they are breaching laws that apply to landlords. You should be able to get someone from the housing department out to look at the issues who will then be able to send a formal notice to have things fixed within an allotted time, otherwise they’ll face fines/prosecution.
Best of luck OP

mencken · 04/03/2020 14:31

you can try Environmental Health but don't hold your breath on anything happening soon. But it is your only recourse I'm afraid.

bit worrying that you are landlords and thought a 12 month tenancy was the minimum!!

MerryMarigold · 04/03/2020 14:33

Short term you can get a dehumidifier for the conservatory. You can also put lots of slug killer down one night and it will look like massacre in the morning but they're quite clever and don't come back for a while (we used to have them in the kitchen). The hot water would be main thing for me.

Harper67 · 04/03/2020 14:49

Thanks so much for the replies, really appreciate the help.

I will look at contacting environmental health, I just can’t see a resolution as the conservatory needs to be replaced and I don’t expect the landlord can afford to it (and we wouldn’t want to live there through that either). I’ve put slug pellets done outside and tried some salt inside but I’m worried about the babies, no matter how much I clean up after I worry about them being exposed to the chemicals!

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AGreatUsername · 04/03/2020 15:31

Do you have to use the conservatory? Are there doors to it you can just keep closed? It sounds awful for you all and I can see why you want to leave. Paying up the rent would be pretty standard if you were to go though. There is a house forum on MSE with some really knowledgeable people on it, may be worth posting on there too.

MarieG10 · 04/03/2020 17:47

Write to Landlord and agent. List all the faults and the history of asking them to fix it. Give him a deadline to get it fixed (say 28 days). If not fished to a satisfactory standard the. You will give him 28 days notice that you will be leaving to rent a new property and that you will be seeking costs in doing so. Make clear you won't be laying rent behind this date.

Just be prepared they may wish to make a claim against you in the county court but you are at liberty to also issue a claim/counter claim.

With the history you have outlined, it is a brave landlord to take you for breach of the tenancy.

BlackHillsofDakota · 04/03/2020 17:59

The fee ban does not cover early release, landlords are still allowed to charge for that.

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