Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Property/DIY

Join our Property forum for renovation, DIY, and house selling advice.

Dreadful survey, help me interpret!

16 replies

AGreatUsername · 26/02/2020 13:31

Okay, so our full survey report finally came in today. I was expecting bad. But I think it may be walk-away bad? We knew the outside side wall had been rebuilt, but not why, although we had a good idea. If the issue is fixed it’s okay with us, but this sounds like it may not be. It’s a bit vague though, please help!

He’s stated a lot of problems (including a rebuilding of the side wall) were caused by structural movement. He thinks partly settlement and partly localised ground movement. We knew this was likely and are unconcerned as long as it is historical and fixed. This remedial work occurred prior to the vendor buying it, early nineties. However, he says that to the rear elevation the wall is bowed and cracked externally, suggesting “onset of the condition which required remedial work to the side elevation”. Is that code for there’s still movement?!?!

Other items noted that I’d like some comment on are a large crack in the attic indicating possible gable peak movement (linked to structural movement) but no word as to whether that is historical or requires action.

There is penetrating damp in the kitchen due to part of the wall being below pavement level. How can we fix this issue? It’s a solid stone wall built facing down a hill.

One bedroom indicates there may be penetrating damp from the rebuilt wall section, again, how do we fix that?

The hallway is very uneven as a result of the old movement. A self levelling compound has been laid and “already failed”, again is this a hint that movement is ongoing? Why can’t he say that?!

The wall in question was rebuilt in the early nineties and no cracks or deformities have developed since then. Equally, as far as we know no paperwork goes along with that job even though it would have needed building regs. It was prior to the current owner buying it. It is a Edwardian end of terrace home.

Everything else seems bearable in its awfulness. We know there are leaks and the lean to needs to come down etc. But the movement bit has terrified me honestly. I’m awaiting his call back but any advice in the meantime would be great.

Just to add that in the list of surveyors recommendations he makes no mention of any movement or getting reports on it etc. The rear side elevation bowing has absolutely scared the CRAP out of me.

OP posts:
AGreatUsername · 26/02/2020 13:33

When I said no cracks or deformities had appeared since then, I meant IN THAT WALL. I don’t know when the bowing and cracks he’s mentioned have occurred 😭

OP posts:
Stringervest · 26/02/2020 13:36

I'm sorry OP. That really sucks. But I wouldn't buy the house. It sounds like it will be constant hassle and worry for you. It may be difficult or impossible to insure and to sell.

Cottipus · 26/02/2020 13:41

Can you ring the surveyor for a chat?

It sounds rather damning but hopefully the surveyor can advise you better off the record. The written reports have to cover surveyors in case you sue.

Have you had a mortgage valuation and has that agreed with the price you are paying?

Pickpick101 · 26/02/2020 13:44

I wouldn't buy unless you were the sort of person who can accept that the house will never be100% right and it won't ever be totally draught and damp free . There will always be work needed doing . Oh a have plenty of time and cash to sort this out.

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 26/02/2020 13:46

Worth a chat with the surveyor, but really - I'm pretty sure I wouldn't buy the place.

starfishmummy · 26/02/2020 13:46

Im not an expert but I think I would be walking away from this

AGreatUsername · 26/02/2020 13:53

I’m waiting for him to call me as he on site now. I’m so impatient. I’m absolutely fine with it never being perfect, it’s a period property and this stuff goes with the territory. But ongoing movement is something that scares me and I have no experience of. Mortgage valuation passed without a hitch, valued at purchase price. Purchase price is around £25k under market price to reflect the many many jobs that need to be done but movement is a biggie. On the plus side the roof looks sound 😂

OP posts:
CoolcoolcoolcoolcoolNoDoubt · 26/02/2020 13:55

Survey wording is the worst, isn't it! I would agree with how you're reading between the lines.. not sure if I would risk it, looks like the problem is ongoing or has returned.

Hopefully you have more information soon Smile

Happygirl79 · 26/02/2020 14:00

I would make the surveyor walk you through it point by point with approx costs of putting things right

AGreatUsername · 26/02/2020 14:18

I’ve just noticed that when he’s inspecting the floors and saying how most of them slope towards one side, he goes on to say it reflects previous movement and he saw no evidence of recent movement. God my heart is going up and down like a humming bird! Ring me surveyor ring me!

OP posts:
sunshinesupermum · 26/02/2020 15:08

I agree with pp - ask surveyor to give you idea of costs to repair 'movement'

redastherose · 26/02/2020 15:23

The reference to the rear wall showing signs of bowing likely means that whatever was done to rectify movement when the side wall was rebuilt has either failed or it is an ongoing thing that will continue to get worse and is difficult or impossible to fix. It sounds like a fairly terrible report from the bits you have included. I personally would ask the Surveyor for an idea of what works would be necessary to resolve the issues and the likely cost then go to a decent firm of builders and check what they would charge for those sort of works. It sounds very expensive to me. If you still have your heart set on it then you really need to negotiate a price which will allow you to do all of those works (add at least an extra 15-20% on top of the cost of works) as that is going to be what it will cost you. I wouldn't bother personally unless I got enough knocked off the purchase price to make all the upheaval and effort worth it. Particularly if the back wall will need to be re-built as you would need to factor in the cost of somewhere to stay whilst those works were completed.

Rosalo · 26/02/2020 16:02

Sorry but it would be a huge red flag and I'd walk away.

Settlersofcatan · 26/02/2020 16:18

This happened to us recently too.

Don't walk away, run away.

AGreatUsername · 26/02/2020 16:35

Right I’ve spoken to him and it’s not as bad as I feared. The movement he referred to is historic. He thinks the reason for wall replacement was partly that and partly due to mortar decay making the wall bow. He says the wall on the other side is caused by the same thing, NOT movement. Thank god. He’s recommended chemical anchors which are about £3000. I’m not sure whether to bother trying to get a reduction in purchase price due to this, but probably won’t.

He also said that if a gun was put to his head he’d say he was 99% sure the attic crack and any gable movement was historic and not a problem, however recommended we remove the ivy outside ASAP to confirm there are no external cracks there. If there are (which he thinks there aren’t) we’ll have to look at lateral roof supports.

So overall, not as scary as it read.

OP posts:
Settlersofcatan · 26/02/2020 16:47

For that number of issues, I don't think you're getting a good deal at 25k under market value. I would definitely renegotiate the price

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread