Need a powerful shower - Grohe, MIRA or Hansgrohe?

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Hello,

I'm really struggling to choose and my one criteria is that I'd like a good powerful shower - comfortable but strong. A jet function is too slim and hard, don't like this.

Grohe is supposed to be reliable and high quality, but they all have water saving features which I worry will mean less power. I do care deeply about the environment, but I don't have baths, I shower for literally five minutes and would like to enjoy the experience.

What's the difference between grohe and hansgrohe?
It's just the shower (flexible) with thermostatic mixer I'm after. Any recommendations?
Thanks

Since you're after a thermostatic mixer, the shower's water flow depends on things outside the shower itself - your local water pressure and the hot water and cold water temperatures and their flow rates.

Unless you get a shower head with tiny pinholes that restricts the flow you'll get about the same from anything.

If you want more flow you'll need to raise the hot water temp so you have hotter water inbound so can mix in more cold. In the worst case you'd need a lot more work - a header tank, a pump and an electric heating shower; or a hot immersion tank and a pump.

Best talk to a heating engineer really.

As Spoon says it depends more on incoming water pressure, pipe size, flow rate etc than the actual shower.

Your best bet in terms of the shower is a fairly small shower head a bit like this inox

We have this one in the guest bathroom and a fancier larger Hansgrohe in our bathroom. The Inox delivers a stronger output because it’s delivering the same flow over a smaller area. If that makes sense. Our hansgrohe doesn’t have a flow restrictor.

Thank you both that's really helpful

I like Aqualisa.

You didn't say if you've got a combi boiler or a hot water cylinder.

Fill a bucket at the hot tap, then the cold tap, then both together, at the bath taps, and time it, to see how many litres per minute each delivers. This is a guide to how powerful your shower can be.

A good plumber will investigate these points but you may as well know what your system is like.

We have an aqua Lisa, we swopped for a grohne one and the water pressure wasn't enough so we had to install a pump 😡

I'd install another Aqualisa with low pressure any day. Even with the pump we had better flow from the Aqualisa

We have a pump fitted and this showerhead although it wasn't from Amazon, may have been B & Q, can't remember but it was on line.

Obviously you need a plumber's advice regarding all the variables in your property and water supply, but that works very well for us. The flow is forceful but soft at the same time as it's spread more and supposed to be reasonable on water consumption.

We have a Mira upstairs and a Grohe downstairs. The downstairs one has lots of different jet sensations but ultimately they both do the same job and the pressure is the same.

Our crosswater is better than our grohe.

Thanks again for the replies.
I have a combi boiler, pressure is excellent in the kitchen sink and bathroom sink. Previous old shower was phenomenal, great pressure. Since we "renovated" our bathroom and stupidly bought everything cheap through Victoria Plumbing, we have had 3 years worth of a rubbish weak shower.
Will look up Aqualisa and crossover

Thank you

We bought a grohe and it has a ecojoy setting on the dial to reduce the water use and there was an optional widget to put in the rainfall shower head connection to limit it to 9 litre per minute i think.
We put it in and it is still a better shower than the one in the main bathroom that uses more water somehow.
The instructions seemed to say you could get multiple tens of litres through the valve itself, and there were a huge choice of heads that weren't ecojoy or didn't have the attachment.
Not sure about the other makes.