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Neighbour Noise - WWYD?

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QuietLifeNC · 15/01/2020 08:56

Name changed for this one, in case anyone I know is on. But looking for some advice on whether I am being unreasonable, and best way forward.

Background: I live in a purpose built maisonette on the ground floor. I had no noise issues with my previous upstairs neighbours, and not because they were silent. For instance, they used to put music on and have a boogie on a Friday and Saturday night; I never minded – I actually thought it was quite sweet. But there was decent sound insulation across the flat, so it never got annoying.

They sold up, and the new owner did some major renovations to teh upstairs flat. This included putting wooden flooring across the whole flat. The sound transmission is now awful; for instance at night I can hear her and her partner chatting away in their bedroom (noise travels sideways and down to my bedroom). Every single footstep reverberates around the flat, and when the kids are running up and down the hall/on the stairs it’s literally as if they are in my flat, it’s that loud. So it’s not a case of hearing some noise, sometimes – I hear everything, all the time.

The only time I ever get quiet is when they all go out (or first thing before they get up). Otherwise it’s relentless – I might as well be sharing a flat with them. I did speak to my neighbour at one point, as she was doing the kids bedtime in her bedroom, over my living room - cue 2 hours of kids jumping off the bed! And to be fair, she did change the routine but it doesn't help with everything else.

Anyway…I bit my tongue last year because I was thinking of selling, and I still might, but I really want to do something about this. I checked the leases, and there are no covenants about flooring, unfortunately. There are however clauses about being a nuisance, quiet enjoyment, etc. So going to the freeholder might be (the nuclear). option. I am thinking of approaching the neighbor and framing it up around the sound insulation, rather than their behavior. They do have to move about in their own flat I know, so wanted to keep it impersonal.

Am I being unreasonable here? Should I just sell up? If I do approach the neighbor, any thoughts on how to go about it if you were in their shoes? Another thing to put into the mix is that I’ve heard rumours they are thinking of moving on already. Which – yay! But doesn’t solve issues that will probably still continue with new people.

Sorry for the essay and thanks for any advice!

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MissLemon18 · 15/01/2020 09:05

I'd decide first off if you want to sell. If you do want to sell, you have to disclose any disagreements with neighbours on the property information pack that is sent by solicitors to buyer.

If you decide to press the nuclear button, it would prove difficult when completing sale paperwork further down the road in relation to Qs about neighbour issues.

loubieloo4 · 15/01/2020 09:07

Sell up

QuietLifeNC · 15/01/2020 09:14

Yeah that's the dilemma, with going to a formal dispute, and why I've held fire up to now

With regards to selling the market has been a bit stagnant where I am, and prices have been dropping (Brexit and all that). So I took my place off the market to see what happens in the spring. Not sure how much things are going to pick up, so may be another year or two (I don't have to sell but looking to move further out of London and trade up to a house).

I think you're both probably right and I should just put up with it until I do sell.I do appreciate being able to have a vent though! Smile

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BovaryX · 15/01/2020 09:20

That sounds unbearable. I think you need to think carefully about what benefit you would get by complaining versus the drawbacks. Do you think it likely she will remove or cover the wood flooring which has exacerbated the noise? I reckon not. Then you would be left with a neighbour dispute you have to reveal to any potential buyer. I would sell. The situation sounds unbearable

QuietLifeNC · 15/01/2020 09:34

BovaryX - I doubt she would change the flooring (unless there was a covenant to enforce and the freeholders made her do it).

I was actually really surprised the lease doesn't prohibit it - wooden floors in upstairs flats are the work of the devil!

The other option is to put in additional soundproofing myself but that would cost ££££s and the outcome would not be certain.

Hey ho - I guess I just need to try and ignore it. It's ironic though - I spent 10 years living in the West End without an issue. I then move out to the leafy 'burbs and this is what happens...

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