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Mysterious smell - help!

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fosterdog · 11/01/2020 11:48

At night, an unpleasant, damp-like smell develops in the corner of our bedroom and in the hall just outside it.

We first assumed it was caused by condensation. So we've been leaving the windows open all day and at night to improve ventilation, we've cleaned the walls with mould remover (they're white and there was no visible mould on them). This helped a bit but didn't solve the problem.

We then started thinking the smell was coming from under the floor. I've just ripped the skirting board off the wall and lifted a floorboard to have a look. There's a thick layer of dust (the floorboards have quite big gaps so it's been collecting there for decades) but I can't see any sign of damp or mould. There's no smell down there now. I guess there could be mould mixed up in the dust but only the upward-facing surfaces are covered whereas I'd have thought mould would go for the vertical or downward-facing surfaces too.

The smell from the floor seems to begin late at night - maybe 11pm - whether we've been in the room or not. That makes me think there's a human source. One wall in that corner has our elderly neighbours on the other side. Perhaps there's an issue in their house and it's coming through the wall to ours? How would we tell?

As a next step I've ordered a humidity detector and surface damp detector to check whether we do have a condensation or other damp problem.

We could also do a proper mould test but I'm not convinced it's worth it?

Will report back with the humidity results but otherwise we're feeling a bit stuck. DP wants to lift all the floorboards in the bedroom and hall and have the dust cleaned out but that will involve dismantling our bed, cost £000s (we're not in good health so couldn't do it ourselves) and, as far as I can tell, the dust isn't what's causing the smell.

Any advice hugely appreciated! @PigletJohn - any ideas?

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verybadhairdoo · 11/01/2020 11:54

A dead rat under the floorboards or in the walls or something.??

fosterdog · 11/01/2020 11:54

I should maybe add that this is a first floor bedroom in a Victorian terraced house.

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fosterdog · 11/01/2020 11:56

@verybadhairdoo I wondered that but it's weird that I can't smell anything when I lift the floorboard.

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MostlyChocolate · 11/01/2020 11:59

It's your neighbours. Do you see them regularly? Talk to them.......

endofthelinefinally · 11/01/2020 11:59

If it is at all like fish it could be an electrical fault, maybe a plug or socket on the other side if the wall?

verybadhairdoo · 11/01/2020 12:00

Very strange. Sorry i can't offer any more suggestions

CoffeeBeansGalore · 11/01/2020 12:00

Is there anything on the outside of the wall like guttering or a downpipe that could be leaking & causing damp in the walls? Any creepers or ivy growing on the wall?

TyrionsNextWife · 11/01/2020 12:04

If it’s coming at regular times could it be something to do with the neighbours routine? They might be having a bath every evening before bed, for example, and the waste water is leaking out from the pipes and causing a damp smell.

PigletJohn · 11/01/2020 14:53

how close to the bathroom?

have you looked in the loft for roof leaks, especially near chimneys? Are there pipes or tanks?

Douberry · 11/01/2020 15:06

Have you checked the back of wardrobes or cupboards in the room? I had a very similar experience once - could smell a strong damp/mould smell but no where to be seen. After months of speculation, we discovered that the entire back of our wall of wardrobes (not fitted but freestanding IKEA ones) was covered in green mould - probably not helped by the backs being all porous fibre-board and obviously not enough ventilation in the room Confused

fosterdog · 11/01/2020 15:39

@PigletJohn It's the other end of the hall from the nearest bathroom and the room in between is fine. There are no pipes in the smelly corner of the room and the nearest underfloor water pipe isn't leaking around there (I'd have to take a load more boards up to check the full length but it doesn't smell anywhere else). No sign of any leaks in the roof above the room. No tanks in the loft.

@Douberry There are fitted wardrobes but they're about 5m away on the other side of the room and they smell fine. The smell is quite localised around the corner of the bedroom, the doorway next to it and the hall just outside the door.

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RhubarbTea · 11/01/2020 16:52

It might be a ghost. (sorry, not helpful...)

Are you sure it isn't rats? No signs of droppings under the floorboards when you looked? How long has it been doing on for?
I would ask the neighbour just to rule it out. Perhaps they have a heater with something on it that only goes on at that time. Night storage heater on their side and something dead in the wall?

wowfudge · 12/01/2020 10:12

How long has it been since you first noticed the smell?

fosterdog · 13/01/2020 11:09

@wowfudge This smell's been bothering us for a couple of months I guess.

Adding to the fun, as of yesterday it seems one of the seals in our soil stack pipe is leaking so most of the house now also smells of sewage. It's at the opposite end of the house from the longstanding smell in the bedroom and definitely unrelated. Poor DP has been suffering from really bad 24 hour morning sickness throughout all of this so you can imagine what she's going through...

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MrsMoastyToasty · 13/01/2020 11:17

Is there a chimney breast in the bedroom?
(We had a dead bird fall down the chimney).

fosterdog · 13/01/2020 11:57

Adding to this: just had a plumber round. Apparently the house doesn't smell of sewage. The plumber reckons a fox has just been spraying on the base of the soil stack pipe. It's incredibly pungent. I've sprayed it with dog/cat mess neutraliser but I can't really use a deterrent spray there because it's right by the poor cat's flap. I know the traditional way of deterring foxes but that also doesn't feel ideal in the semi-enclosed space of the side passage, just by the drafty door into the living room...

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fosterdog · 13/01/2020 11:58

@MrsMoastyToasty There is (great thought!) but not on the smelly side of the room.

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MostlyChocolate · 13/01/2020 16:51

Have you seen your neighbours recently....if you haven't ring non emergency police if you get my drift....

fosterdog · 06/03/2020 14:04

I've just posted an update as a new post. Thanks again to everyone for their advice in January.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/property/3840946-Mysterious-smell-help-update

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