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Can't sell 1 bed flat in Eastcote, Middlesex

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karenfrancis · 07/01/2020 10:15

Hi All,

Writing here in frustration, 5 months into trying to sell our one-bed flat in a desirable estate, fed up with the estate agents' crap advice.

Here's the flat: www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-86505251.html

Thoughts welcome.

We bought it in 2014, and it's been a long and painful process. Basically my mother had some money that she wanted to invest in property, but didn't want to get a mortgage in her name, so I sort of got railroaded into taking on the mortgage, and the idea was that we would split the equity between us.

Don't even enter into business with your parents, people. Although we originally agreed it was an investment, my parents signed me into a deal that said that all three of us had to agree to sell it. Which ultimately meant that my parents vetoed anything I said. In 2016 the area was literally a named property hotspot in London, and the prices went up astronomically, but my mum didn't want to sell. Eventually, because my boyfriend also wasn't allowed to move in, we moved out of London to rent, while my brother moved into the flat, but I couldn't buy another place because the mortgage was in my name and I couldn't sell, so I'm still renting now.

Brexit happened amidst all of this, and then my mum unexpectedly got cancer, and long story short, within a year she died from a very rare reaction to the chemo treatment :(. I know I moan about it above, but I miss her a lot and am so annoyed that this situation made our last few years quite difficult and led to a lot of disagreements.

Obviously with the family reeling from what happened in October 2018, we couldn't think about selling for another while after that, but we all agreed by August 2019 to put it on the market. And since then, like, zilch.

We chose a crap estate agent who, despite only managing to get one viewing at a time that was supposedly quite busy, did manage to get us an offer from an investor that seemed to be a personal friend of theirs, but then after 8 weeks of our solicitors dealing with them they said they had to change solicitors and start the process again. When we got annoyed about this the estate agents stupidly put the flat back on the market, and then the buyers pulled out. We changed agents, and they've only managed to get us a handful of viewings since November (yeah, I know, it's a quiet time of year, but plenty of other places are selling).

My mum chose the flat and she was pretty good at choosing places that were desirable. It's in a nice estate, and apparently the 2 beds are selling like hotcakes but no one wants the one beds. It doesn't make sense to me at all - we've already dropped our price and it is substantially (more than 10%) lower than its peak price in 2016, but we keep getting told that we have to cut it more if we want people to even bother coming to view it! It doesn't make sense to me, as it's a nice flat, in a nice area, and surely there are some people who want 1 bed flats and can't afford 2 beds. Surely there is always a market for 1 beds for people who just want to get onto the housing ladder.

Very very frustrating, sorry for the rant, but some insight from anyone would be great - what the markets are like in your areas, what you know about selling one beds, etc.

Thanks!

K

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JoJoSM2 · 07/01/2020 10:57

Likely to be the price.

nutellalove · 07/01/2020 11:01

Agree I think it's too expensive- there are brand new 1 bed flats closer to central London than that selling for around £330K (some with gyms etc)

karenfrancis · 07/01/2020 11:05

Fair enough, but surely there are some people that have saved up enough to allow them to spend 290, but they can't afford 330? I don't know why people keep saying to me that there are good deals to be found at 330, when there must be loads of first-time buyers that want to stop renting but don't have enough to pay 330?

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Hotcuppatea · 07/01/2020 11:08

Sorry about your mum Flowers

Agree with other posters- it's the price. The decor and furniture also looks quite bland and dated, but that would matter less if the price was lower. I'd want a garden or balcony (and another bedroom) for that price.

AgeLikeWine · 07/01/2020 11:11

If a property without significant faults in a decent area won’t sell, price is the issue.

Your flat is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it in the current market, OP. It appears that a one bedroom flat in zone 5 isn’t currently worth £300k.

GU24Mum · 07/01/2020 11:12

There's nothing inherently wrong with the flat so it can only be price. On Rightmove, Flat 1c sold recently at £196K. If that's broadly similar, should you pitch your price at £299,950 and then get the people who won't pay more than £300?

SuperSange · 07/01/2020 11:13

It's only worth what someone will pay for it; it doesn't matter what it used to be worth. It looks like you're overpriced for the area.

Pilot12 · 07/01/2020 11:19

Have a look on the internet to see what other flats in the block have sold for and price accordingly. Are you asking too much or have other flats sold for that much?

My first thoughts on looking at the photos is that it's too grey (too much grey stuff in one flat) and there's too much stuff, the bedroom furniture looks crowded and doesn't look right with the white bed. Can you make it look more minimal?

ChicCroissant · 07/01/2020 11:23

What have other one-bed flats in the development sold for? You seem overly-focused on it's value in 2016 which isn't really relevant (it was bought in 2014). Also there is no way the EA would have put it back on the market unless you told them to!

I also think that your feelings about the flat seem to be mixed up with something else and it (and the EA) are unfairly getting the blame for a completely different issue here.

karenfrancis · 07/01/2020 11:25

Fair enough, it's not really to my taste either, it's just quite plain, so as to appeal to the greatest number, I suppose. That was my mum's argument.

I suppose my argument would be that the bedroom furniture won't be there when they buy it, and it seems to be fairly inoffensive, even if it's not to your taste. I'll bear it in mind, but it's not feedback I've had from the estate agent or (minimal) viewings...if it comes up then we'll look into what we can do.

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stairway · 07/01/2020 11:25

It looks lovely but that’s a lot for only one bedroom. It wouldn’t suit anyone who wanted children

puptent · 07/01/2020 11:26

It's a nice flat but ground floor is always going to be less desirable so are priced lower to reflect that. Also how long left on the lease (we are looking at the moment and it annoys me that agents don't mention this in details. If they don't mention it or at least don't say 'long lease' I am more inclined to think it's too short and skip by so missing a potential view.)

karenfrancis · 07/01/2020 11:31

That's a good point - it's 116 years, and we've just had a deed of variation done that means the ground rent won't go up for another 10 years - do you think it'd make a difference to mention that?

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FAQs · 07/01/2020 11:33

What was the previous offer at before it fell through. Presume you bought it for £250k ish so I’d look at dropping the price, last one sold for £296k 12 months ago so agent probably priced it about correct but depends how quick you want to sell.

Clymene · 07/01/2020 11:33

Zoopla estimate £286. I would pitch it under £300k if you want to sell it

karenfrancis · 07/01/2020 11:35

I don't think that Zoopla estimate is fair based on what has actually sold. Nothing has been that low. The offer was 290, and we'd be happy with that again. We just don't want to get dumb offers of 270 if we keep dropping.

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karenfrancis · 07/01/2020 11:36

Someone on another forum suggested going OIRO 295 - happy to do that, just wondering what's the best time.

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puptent · 07/01/2020 11:42

I'm guessing investors/flat for kids/ type people might be looking at this flat and in that case ground rent/service charge and lease is definitely of interest. (I've discounted flats with high service charges for e.g. because I don't want to land my DCs with the fees.) Positive info might help to entice more viewings at least.

FAQs · 07/01/2020 11:42

I’ve just had a look at your postcode and similar spec one bed flats and they are priced around £300k so it’s likely they will achieve £290-295k market is starting to pick up now after poor market conditions, I would drop it a little because it’ll scoop up the people who put in the max £300k budget in the search engines.

mummmy2017 · 07/01/2020 11:45

Have an open day, advertise it on Facebook and other free places, dress the bedroom add some colour.
Say your open to offers and see what happens.

ConfidingFish · 07/01/2020 11:58

I know this may not be the issue but when you are searching for a house and use the drop downs for price on Rightmove the options start to change.

So for £200+ everything is in increments of ten thousand so £210k £220k etc until you reach £300k. Then it jumps from £300k to £325k and then £350k.

As you are priced at £305k you may be missing out on those who are looking at £300k as a top budget. If I was looking to spend £300k I wouldn't choose £325k as my maximum.

Maybe dropping the price to £299 would help you. Somehow it feels better starting with a 2. Pscyhology and all that jazz. The flat itself looks fine, most people these days search online for a house/flat not by being registered with an estate agent.

JoJoSM2 · 07/01/2020 12:01

The price brackets on Rightmove go 290, 300, 325. If someone is looking to spend 290, they are unlikely to look up to 325 so they won’t even see your flat in their search results. Just put it on for 295.

JoJoSM2 · 07/01/2020 12:01

Cross posted.

Clymene · 07/01/2020 12:25

I wouldn't do OIRO - it's not typical for England and it implies you won't negotiate. I agree that the price bracket thing is probably affecting potential buyers. If you have under £300k to spend and you're a first time buyer, you may not look at flats you think you can't afford (I know I avoided looking at things out of my price range so that I didn't feel dissatisfied with what I could actually afford!)

jackstini · 07/01/2020 12:36

There are a couple of other 1 beds very close by that are on at £300k and are slightly newer
Agree with reducing to £299,995 to get under the £300k barrier
Also your details do not state total square footage - need to get them to add that

Here is some of the competition
www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/53069206?search_identifier=53682bec5e856c87d4698348a0406612
www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/53174272?search_identifier=53682bec5e856c87d4698348a0406612

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