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Seller dilemma

26 replies

Finfintytint · 17/12/2019 19:10

I’ve just sold my mum’s house after she died earlier on this year.
The purchasers have been a pain in the arse throughout the process but today we have finally completed. Hooray!
Except on entering the property they had difficulty in entering. I’ve never used the front door and I think with a mortise lock you have to lift the handle and turn the key a couple of rotations to open the door.

The front door key had been left with agents and they have organised all viewings. There have been twenty viewings in the last four months and the purchasers themselves have had around four viewings themselves all facilitated by the key holder estate agents.
Today, on completion, they have had to wiggle the front door lock to get in. They have entered the property after a few minutes of wiggling the unfamiliar lock.

They have then exited the property not realising it’s a slam lock door.
They are now locked out with all extra keys left inside a kitchen drawer for them as arranged.
They are now creating merry hell with the estate agents demanding payment for a lock Smith. They are also contacting their solicitor in the morning with a view to us breaching a contract and leaving them with a faulty lock on completion.
I intend to challenge this of course as the door, key and lock has been fully functional for several months and it’s their own fault they didn’t anticipate a slam lock door.
Am I liable here for not explaining how to operate a door? Should I have been more explicit? I’ve never used the front door as I’d walk straight into mum’s at the back.
Buyers had a full structural survey and we gave them details of when mum replaced windows and doors.
Does caveat emptor apply?

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Gillian1980 · 17/12/2019 19:27

They’re being ridiculous.
I would avoid getting drawn in as it’s their own fault they got locked out.
Most people consider changing locks when they move in anyway, to maximise security.

Aozora13 · 17/12/2019 19:30

Agree they’re being ridiculous. Every house I’ve lived in has had a slam lock front door (and I’ve locked myself out of many). They should have kept the keys on them, especially if they’re not familiar with the locks. Definitely not your problem!

Finfintytint · 17/12/2019 19:47

Thank you. I think they are being silly but I don’t put it past them to start legal proceedings at our own cost.

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PlumsGalore · 17/12/2019 21:21

They won’t start legal proceedings, especially if they are likely to blame and may have to pay your costs as well as there’s. Chancers.

misspiggy19 · 17/12/2019 21:25

They don’t have a leg to stand on. Ridiculous and cheeky

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 17/12/2019 21:42

The Law is not there to enable stupid people to sue others for their own stupidity

Seeingadistance · 18/12/2019 04:50

The lock works. They used it to get in the house.

They then locked themselves out the house. That has nothing to do with quality of the lock.

sqirrelfriends · 18/12/2019 08:46

Haha, what idiots.

Not your problem or your fault OP, if I were you I wouldn't fork out for anything.

TheBrockmans · 18/12/2019 08:55

I am surprised that the estate agents have managed to pick themselves up off the floor from laughing! The lock obviously works as they got in and managed to lock the keys in there. It is always best to change the lock anyway, especially with an older resident she could have given the key to carers, extended family, meals on wheels etc. If you feel the need to reply I would just point out that most people change locks on completion anyway.

StillRunningWithScissors · 18/12/2019 08:58

I'd not worry, but look at it as karma for the stress they've caused throughout the buying process

Finfintytint · 18/12/2019 09:03

Thank you. I’ve always changed locks on completion. I was surprised at how many people had a key to mum’s house. We retrieved several when she died.
Karma was indeed a word I used last night ( amongst others!).
We’ll see what today brings.

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johnd2 · 18/12/2019 12:29

If i was the new buyers I'd have been to embarrassed to tell people I'd locked myself out straight away! Maybe the embarrassment was so bad they wanted to try to blame someone else!

Finfintytint · 18/12/2019 12:35

Yes. I think so.
Had further call from agent. They now can’t find garage keys!
They are hanging on a key hook marked Garage Door 1 and Garage Door 2.

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Thedeadwood · 18/12/2019 12:38

They are idiots and don’t have a leg to stand on.

Her0utdoors · 18/12/2019 12:40

Bless them, they sound a little stressed. Id be tempted to put my phone on silent at this point.

RandomMess · 18/12/2019 12:44

If anything is missing surely it's Estate Agents that have had people traipsing in and out...

Her0utdoors · 18/12/2019 12:44

And I hope you're OK OP? It's hardly stress free when you sell your parents home.

Finfintytint · 18/12/2019 12:53

Thanks, I’m ok. I’m in the middle of selling my own house too so could do with without this!

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SistersOfPercy · 18/12/2019 17:00

You have my sympathies, it's that little bit harder selling a parents home isn't it?
The couple that bought my late Mums house went nuclear because we'd left them the storage cupboards at the back of the garage. These had never been mentioned at any point. He was ranting and raving at the EA's as soon as he'd gotten the keys. What was most annoying was they had expressed how much they liked my Mums brass fire surround and a mirror in the bedroom so we left them to be nice.

DH called the man, told him he'd happily come and collect everything that was left, and that included the mirror and surround. He spluttered a bit, told him actually, no worries he'd sort it out himself. Cheeky Fucker.

I've spoken to Mums neighbour recently and he tells me that despite the shaky start they are in fact a nice couple so can only assume moving brings out the twat in some people.

Finfintytint · 18/12/2019 17:20

Yes agree. Stressful time for all.
As they were first time buyers I offered them the washing machine, fridge, cooker and lawnmower with a few garden tools. They gladly accepted but hoping it’s not a Whirlpool machine now.

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MzHz · 18/12/2019 17:23

Just let the phone calls go to voicemail from now on, they’re painful and getting what they deserve

Isohungy · 18/12/2019 17:42

That's your mum shoving the dickheads out of her house.

Cheeky buggers. Sorry for your loss love Flowers
Ignore any further calls

Thinkle · 18/12/2019 20:19

This happened to me with a first time buyer too!! They Couldn’t open the door for a few minutes when they arrived (after bad traffic that they seemed to think Added weight to their point Hmm) and claimed health and safety risk. Also moaned about a light fitting that broke three days after they moved in. I also left some appliances for free as good will and they complained about the condition of one of these. They asked for compensation. I tabulated their “issues” and set out my reasons why they were rubbish and sent it back. Didn’t hear anything more.

WombatChocolate · 18/12/2019 20:35

The only thing that has happened is they have locked themselves out - nothing more. Not really a case for suing.

Just ignore.

They are probably exhausted and irritable and upset at an additional expense to get someone out to get them in and retrieve the keys - but not your problem. Once they've done it and had a sleep, they will forget all about it.

Clymene · 18/12/2019 20:40

If you get any further calls from the bloody estate agent, tell them to go via your solicitor.

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