Thinking about moving to Holloway

[MummyGigi]

Hi all,
I’m new here but I know one of you fabulous parents can help me out.
I’m going to view a house on Mackenzie road in Holloway, currently live in Hampton Richmond and wanted to know if anyone has any idea what the area is like. I have two teenage sons and a teenage daughter and worry for their safety as it’s incredibly safe here in Hampton. Any advice would be so appreciated.

For safety info, you can look below:

www.met.police.uk/sd/stats-and-data/met/crime-data-dashboard/

If you go into Safer Neighbourhoods, you can look at specific areas with all offences detailed.

It certainly won't be as safe as Hampton wherever you live in inner London.

This is a useful link for crime trends in the Islington and Camden areas

Violence against the person trending up since 2012 camdennewjournal.com/article/gangs-cop-islington-violence-is-the-worst-ive-known

I lived in Islington and Camden for 9 years and was never personally affected though

Between 2013 and 2018 Holloway Road was the second worst street in London for moped crime

Hampton to Holloway???! That's some move and may be a bit of a shock until you settle in. Hampton is 'naice' whereas Holloway is 'gritty'.

Do you have to move? Holloway isn't the most obvious choice so I assume there's a reason?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/w[[www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/heatmap-reveals-londons-most-dangerous-streets-for-moped-crime-with-islington-and-camden-worst-hit-a3837066.html%3famp

Trying that again www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/heatmap-reveals-londons-most-dangerous-streets-for-moped-crime-with-islington-and-camden-worst-hit-a3837066.html%3famp

Thank you all,
I don't have to move to Holloway as such. I just need to be closer to my parents who are in Essex but I really don't want to go to Essex.
I am originally from inner London but moved to Richmond ten years ago after my divorce.
I don't know anything about the north side of London. Originally from East London and have no desire to go back there.
Sort of stuck and not having many options.
I guess it's sort of 'affordable' in the sense I still have 3 children at home so have to consider house size etc.
X

@Onceuponatimethen that article is scary 😯
Knives over fists and machetes not potato peelers!
Not sure I can deal with. I'll be having a heart attack every time they'll leave the house!
Oh God. The joys of parenting ey!
Back to square one I guess 😖

Depending on your budget, have a look at Muswell Hill or Crouch End (both are pricey but Hampton isn't exactly cheap either). Maybe even Highgate or East Finchley. West Hampstead might also be an option. Depending on how far out you want to go, have could have a look at Palmers Green or Winchmore Hill (although this is getting dangerously close to TOWIE land).

I don't know what you disliked about East London but it's very different now compared to 20 years ago. And there are nice parts.

I've got some friends in Wanstead in east London and it's pretty fancy. Easy for teens to go into central London. Doesn't strike me as crime central.

@HundredMilesAnHour east London brings back too many bad memories for me. I experienced A LOT of trauma there and no matter how many times I revisit it and 'test' myself I still find myself tuning home and needing a few days to recover from the ordeal.
My family are spread over Essex, some in South Woodford, Buckhurst Hill, Barkingside and Wanstead. All lovely areas but again, when I was married it was all these areas that as well as isle of dogs and tower hamlets in general that were my go to areas for work and past friends.
Plus I have two adult children who live in Whitton and a beautiful baby grandson who I know ill rarely see if I went to Essex.
I would love to live in Essex but I just feel my emotional well being will be seriously compromised. Also given the fact that my ex husband lives in Essex. I just want avoid him and I fear for my children should they eve me bump into him or his family. He was a very abusive father as we're his family to my children. It has been 11 years since he last saw them but I still get really bad anxiety when I go there.
The trauma hasn't left me yet I think.
I'm trying to get as close to my parents but not that close as well a good distance for my older children to make their way to me.
☹️

That's understandable OP. I had similar feelings for certain areas in North London where I had unhappy (as well as happy) memories. Just being there again would make me really emotional. It still does a little and although time is a great healer, it doesn't heal everything.

I live in Holloway but my children are only 11 & 7.
I’ve always felt safe, even when out in the evening alone.
There are a few good restaurants popping up & nice cafes. We’re relatively unaffected by the football, the children services are very good & there are a few secondary schools that are outstanding.

@Inmyownlittlecorner thank you 🙏🏻
I thin the best way to judge is to go to the area at different times.
It is in particular a road called Mackenzie road which has a social housing estate right opposite. This doesn't bother me at all provided it's not one of those rough inner London estates.
London has its fair share of madness everywhere even here in 'affluent' Richmond upon Thames has its share of crime and crap as well as travellers who take their horses for a walk on pavements. Whilst others are annoyed by this, I find it hilarious!
I would love to just get over it as such and I've tried but I just can't seem to shake it off.
Thank you x

I wouldn't live in Holloway - it's vibrant but will be a culture shock after Richmond and you'll be forever worrying about your own and your children's safety (with good reason in that area). There are far nicer and safer areas. What about South East London? Blackheath, Greenwich, Hither Green, Forest Hill? Very easy journeys into C London, leafy, safer than central London and easy journey to Essex. Islington itself is nice but £££ and also has a lot of crime. The whole area is crowded, noisy and polluted too. Depends if you want a wholesale change.