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Water softener or just shower head water filter?

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ecoloco · 24/10/2019 13:38

Thinking of buying a shower head water filter to see whether it helps my son's eczema and my hair. However, I'm wondering how well they work - does anyone have any experience with them, and/or recommendations for brand/model?

Would it be better just to take the plunge and install a water softener for the whole house? Cost of that, and the fact we may move in the next couple of years or so, is putting me off of this option. Though I am tempted by the thought of not having to constantly scrub limescale off of the bathroom and kitchen fittings, as well as the skin and hair benefits of course. WWYD?

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PigletJohn · 24/10/2019 14:42

I've been using a softener for years and wouldn't be without it.

(that post will be repeated by quite a lot of other snetters in the same or similar words)

as well as cutting down soap, detergent and skin cream use, and giving softer, cleaner clothes and towels without a residue of soap and limescale, softer hair, smoother skin, closer shaves, it also coincided with DP's eczma clearing up.

ecoloco · 24/10/2019 16:07

Thanks @PigletJohn - I suspect that's the way I'm leaning! Although I'm finding it quite tricky to actually get prices for softeners - all the websites seem to require you to fill in a form and be called back for a quote (I'd rather just be able to find out prices without speaking to a salesman!!).

Do you know what brand your softener is? Has it been reliable? How often do you have to put salt in it (and how much does that cost you)?

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ViserionTheDragon · 24/10/2019 16:09

I have an Aquatiere combined water filter and softener. It's bloody brilliant and I wouldn't be without it. The water tastes good and my skin and hair especially feel much better.

QueenGoblin · 24/10/2019 16:22

We live in a very hard water area. We had so many plumbing problems related to the scale the first couple of years in the house.

We have had a softener for over 2 years now. The first year we still had some problems but now it's much better. They said it takes around a year to clear through the system.

It has been amazing. It's great for appliances (washing machine, dishwasher) as well as showering etc.

I think they said we can take the softener with us if we move, it fits in the cupboard under the sink. We also had a small tap installed that is unsoftened water.

I think we replace the salt about every 2 weeks.

We originally had a 3 month trial before deciding to keep it. I want to say that it ended up costing around £1000 but I really can't remember. We paid it off monthly.

Svalberg · 24/10/2019 16:30

I took the softener with me the last time that I moved. Wouldn't be without it.

PigletJohn · 24/10/2019 16:53

I actually have a Permutit, it's a reconditioned one that I got when the old machine went wrong. I understand the company went bust years ago and the name was bought up by a cheap company.

However

I suggest you call your local water softener company (there will be one). First question is "do you repair water softeners?" If the answer is no, try someone else.

Local companies will (normally) provide an installation service, repairmen and salt delivery as well as selling machines. They may be unwilling to service machines they did not supply and are not familiar with.

The mechanism is actually incredibly simple, there is often just one assembly containing all the working parts, a plastic salt bin, some pipes, and a pressurised cylinder, and the ion-exchange granules. My window cleaner actually built his own from standard parts.

In mine, the meter, timer and control valves are all the head made by Fleck, which seems to supply numerous makers internationally. I had new seals fitted to it and they are readily available and familiar to the local menders.

Many local companies will supply major brands, and also one of their own. If they've been in business for some years and have competent repairers they should be able to service it when required. IME this is after about ten years.

I'm told the cheap brands sold mail order and in DIY sheds are throw-away when they go wrong.

The companies that advertise in colour supplements and send a salesman to sit in your house until you sign up seem to be rather expensive. Like kitchen and window companies. They rely on most customers never having bought one before and not knowing what the price should be.

If you are in a hard-water area, look at your friends and neighbours. Ask the one with the softest, shiniest hair who she recommends locally. When you have a softener you will understand this.

PigletJohn · 24/10/2019 17:03

p.s.

I think I use about 10kg salt per month. But the last dozen bags I bought lasted more than a year. 20kg bags are available but a bit heavy to lug around. Blocks are convenient but much more expensive. I got Broste brand. Always delivered. Don't carry salt in your own car. A single spilt grain will eat a hole through the floor. look in the delivery van and you will be shocked, unless it is very new. They are sold by builders merchants, catering suppliers, plumbers merchants, and on ebay. This year I paid £89 for 12 10kg bags, delivered. If I'd bought 25 kg bags and collected, it would be much cheaper (don't).

ecoloco · 24/10/2019 17:05

Thanks everyone! @QueenGoblin and @Svalberg - that's so helpful to know you can take the unit when you move, I presumed it would become a permanent fixture of the house!

@PigletJohn thank you for the fantastic tips - would not have known about any of that, and I feel better equipped to call some (local) companies now!

Also wish I had your window cleaner's DIY skills...!

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PigletJohn · 24/10/2019 17:23

btw, ask for the high-flow hoses and valves. They cost a bit more but will deliver more water, which is useful if you have an unvented cylinder or a large combi, now or in the future. Small valves are constricting and cheaper, and plumbers will use them unless specified extra (and you watch to make sure they don't "forget")

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