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Should I pay?

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birdsnotbees · 21/10/2019 08:55

We had a tiler in on Wed to lay our hall floor. Concrete encaustic tiles, which are a specialist job. Agreed to £50 per sq foot as it’s a specialist job. Tiler asked us what colour grout; we said black. He said ok.

Turns out you can’t use coloured grout with these tiles. It stains them. It’s ruined the tiles, they’re covered in a black stain across all of them.

Spoke to the tiler on the Wed and he blamed us as we’d asked for black grout. My view is that I didn’t ask - he said what colour and I said black? If he’d said we couldn’t have coloured grout I wouldn’t have cared; he didn’t as despite claiming to be a specialist he’s nothing of the sort.

He then left the smeared tiles to do another job, promising to come back Fri to fix them. I queried it as I thought any stain gets worse the longer you leave it. He said it wouldn’t. I then did some research; it does.

He came back Friday lunchtime, still massively grumpy, and spent around an hour cleaning them. It didn’t work. He then left a chunk of tiles ungrouted, the rest of the floor a smeary mess, and submitted an invoice.

He’s since been sending me abusive messages saying I have to pay.

I spent 15 hours wet sanding the tiles by hand over the weekend. They’re a bit better but will always look a bit grimy. I also found 6 cracked tiles. I’ve contacted a repair company to see if they can help, but that will likely cost me hundreds. The tiles cost £1,000 (I know I know but I’d saved up and it’s a big hall).

Should I pay him? I’m about to get a torrent of abuse off him (I said I’d call him today). If he’d even tried to make it right then I’d feel differently; it’s the fact he half heartedly tried to clean them for an hour, tried to blame me and hasn’t even finished grouting...

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Alexalee · 21/10/2019 09:46

I assume you mean 50 a square metre?
And he hasnt finished the job to a satisfactory standard so no I wouldnt be paying him
If he cant fix it then tell him you will get someone in to fix it and then deduct that off his invoice

birdsnotbees · 21/10/2019 10:16

Yes sorry 50 a sq metre. Ok I’ll do that, thank you!

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misspiggy19 · 21/10/2019 10:23

Difficult one. Who ordered the tiles? Why were you not made aware about the problem with coloured grout?

KMoKMo · 21/10/2019 10:31

How much was he charging for the whole job to be completed? Did you have any proof he had laid these tiles before? If he’s saying he’s a specialist in laying them he should have known the issues with coloured grout. Did he provide any references or photos of work? How long did he actually spend laying tiles? Did he complete the floor? Are all the tiles ruined?

KMoKMo · 21/10/2019 10:32

Sorry posted too soon. I think we need more detail OP to decide. It’s not really clear cut but I wouldn’t be paying until I could take legal advice or come to some agreement about a reduced payment.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 21/10/2019 10:56

If he's a specialist tiler then he definitely should have known about the grout, otherwise, in what way is he "special"?

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