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Possible subsidence please help!

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Henrysmum11 · 16/09/2019 21:15

I have a large grade 2 listed house that has been rented to a lovely family for nearly 5 years. They left about a month ago and I’ve been to the house regularly since as we’re redocorating to sell rather than let again. When I stayed there a few days ago I noticed in the top bedroom the ceiling (which has always been a bit uneven in places) has a lot of sudden new cracks in the plaster, there are some new diagonal cracks in the ceiling plaster in two rooms and one connecting wall and things to me just look different. Some of the skirting boards have gaps between them and the floors which I haven’t noticed before. The outside looks fine though, no cracks but the supporting wall at the bottom of the garden is leaning outward as if being pushed. I haven’t noticed this before as the garden is at the back and I have always entered the front and just gone in the garden but not outside the back wall. I feel that something structural has happened but my husband says I’m being neurotic.

My other big concern is that my landlord insurance is now cancelled as my tenants have left and I’ve just taken on new insurance with a different company (one week ago) My house is nearly 200 years old and a previous survey 10 years ago when I bought the house mentioned historical ‘movement’ but nothing ongoing.
I’m massively worried as firstly I think I have very much undervalued my house ‘rebuild cost’ for my landlord insurance and also didn’t mention to them the history of movement as it was historic and I didn’t think was relevant.
I don’t know whether to contact my new insurer or just wait and see what happens or try to get an independent assessor out? I can’t sleep with all the worry about what might be going on, whether I’m properly insured and whether we’ll ever sell the house now. I’ve put my life savings into this house...
I’m very grateful for any advice! Thank you

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wowfudge · 16/09/2019 22:40

I've never seen a survey for an older house that didn't mention historical movement. Typical as they generally have shallower foundations than modern ones.

Do you have the check in report from when your tenants signed the tenancy? Inspection reports and photos? If so you should be able to compare the condition of the house over the past few years with now.
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Did the tenants (or you) store things in the loft which might explain the ceiling cracks?

If you are decorating you are bound to things more than if you are just calling in. Get some caulk and fill the gaps - old houses are never square and true, things are bound to need some attention.

You've said yourself you haven't really looked at the garden wall before - this is the most serious thing, but if you are selling I'd expect the buyer's survey to pick up on it.

I suspect deep down you are worrying you might not be able to sell the house. I've always been convinced there would something which would come up at survey and put a spanner in the works when we have been selling. It's never happened though.

Blobby10 · 17/09/2019 11:02

You could always get a Full homebuyers survey done for peace of mind?

wowfudge · 17/09/2019 11:04

A homebuyers survey won't be much help as it won't go into sufficient detail and will recommend a structural survey. A structural survey would be the way, but I do think you are probably worrying unnecessarily OP.

Blobby10 · 17/09/2019 12:22

Sorry @wowfudge I meant that one!!! Don't know where the Homebuyers idea came from Grin

Lightsabre · 17/09/2019 12:30

Why not just decorate and put it on the market. Any prospective sensible buyer will have a full structural survey done. You'll then get an indication of any likely problems. In the meantime phone your new insurers up to say you've undervalued the rebuild cost.

Henrysmum11 · 17/09/2019 18:16

Thanks for your replies. I’ve been so worried about it it’s nice to have some sense knocked into me. Yes I think the tenants did store some things in the loft so perhaps that has had a bearing. Hopefully the hot weather has caused some movement and cracks rather than it being anything more serious.
I’m going there tomorrow with my caulk and polyfilla and once the exterior has been painted I’ll get it on the market and keep my fingers crossed! Thanks again

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