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Buyer won't instruct solicitor or order a survey until my offer has been accepted

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 16:26

What would you do? I'm not sure she is serious as had a 20 minute look at my place then offered a week later.

She said she wouldn't want to incur any costs while it was still on the market, now it's off the market I feel like the goalposts have been moved.

What do you think?

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wowfudge · 02/09/2019 20:28

Don't say you're going to rent to force her to book a survey then find somewhere you want to buy and get into a chain! If you were using a proper EA they'd advise keeping the house on RM etc but not booking any more viewings. Once the chain is complete the buyer books their survey and the status of the house is changed to "under offer" or whatever term you like that means the same.

orangeshoebox · 02/09/2019 20:31

so you say your buyer is not committed but you are not committed yourself

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 20:51

If you were using a proper EA they'd advise keeping the house on RM etc but not booking any more viewings.

That's just not true, they would advise all sorts of different things.

I have a proper ea that's been doing it for 20 years. He's said to put it back live unless they commit. I've committed more by taking it off the market.

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wowfudge · 02/09/2019 20:55

Nearly everyone has told you you are wrong OP, but you won't have it. I really hope you aren't a nightmare seller for your buyer.

orangeshoebox · 02/09/2019 20:59

but you are not committed (yet) as you have not yet had your offer accepted?

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 21:00

How can I be wrong when I've asked what to do?

Several have said to keep it on rm

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LolaSmiles · 02/09/2019 21:06

I'm confused because you're not in a place to commit but then expect your buyers to shell out money on a property that could easily not be theirs.

It seems like a double standard to me

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 21:17

The issue for me is they said they would proceed with the sale once it was taken off the market. Now they've changed their minds. I was already unsure of them.

My agent has said move it to under offer, but they want it SSTC.

Them changing their minds is way more of a bigger issue that the situation, I was already warely of them now I think it's best to just find another buyer as they've given several warning signs.

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Puffthemagicdragongoestobed · 02/09/2019 21:37

I don’t really understand the problem. Didn’t you say at the beginning of the thread that you have found somewhere and were going to offer on it? So you would know soon enough if the chain is closed and move on to the next step of searches and survey for both yourself and your buyer.

ShirleyPhallus · 02/09/2019 21:46

I’m with your buyer, no way would I be gambling money at the stage when you have no where else to go and in your own words won’t rent either

Not sure why you bothered to post on here when nearly everyone has said they’re in agreement with the buyer but you’re still arguing back that you’re in the right 🤷🏼‍♀️

LolaSmiles · 02/09/2019 21:49

There's no warning signs from this thread.

Maybe they said they'd do surveys once off the market but then have taken advice and the advice has come back like many of us have said saying not to sink money into a house that isn't ready to sell.

In the cold light of day (taking the emotional element out houses of it) what you're actually saying is "I'm not happy because someone won't spend money on an item that I'm not in a position to proceed with selling."

They may pull out, but then that's not unreasonable for them if they find another property they like where the vendor is actually actively buying another property. From their perspective, they've seen a house they like and want to buy but the seller may or may not move any time soon and that vendor is asking them to prove their intent by spending money on a property they may or may not sell in the end.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 02/09/2019 21:49

I don't get it either. OP seems to be looking for a reason to justify not selling to them, despite the vast majority of people saying that it would be stupid of them to start paying for searches now. And then just more vague allusions to being wary of them. Not sure what the point of the thread was when her mind was clearly made up already.

DontFeedTheCatCake · 02/09/2019 21:49

If you take a step back and think about it, you are expecting your buyer to spend several hundred pounds before you have made any commitment to move out. However much you've been let down in the past, they won't want to commit to that without knowing you have somewhere to go. And that makes perfect sense.

Zebrasinpyjamas · 02/09/2019 21:58

Is there a difference between labelling the house sstc or under offer?
If I was your buyer I would be her that you were going to be difficult throughout the process and then backtrack.
Unfortunately the English system requires some faith/trust on both sides. If both of you don't have this, you might as well stop the agreement now and find someone else.

LolaSmiles · 02/09/2019 22:05

zebra
I believe under offer means an offer has gone in but the seller is deciding whether they're accepting and proceeding, sold STC is when the offer has been agreed and people are going through the motions to complete the sale.

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 22:09

No what I'm saying is until they are ready to spend money I shouldn't take it off the market and should instead change it to under offer.

It doesn't cost to just find solicitors and until they actually do some work they won't cost anything. So the fact that they won't do that is another warning to me.

At the moment I've given them more commitment than they have.

Them changing their mind about several things and some things that don't add up has given me little trust in them.

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ShirleyPhallus · 02/09/2019 22:12

How do you know she hasn’t found a solicitor?

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 22:13

Because she said so

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ShirleyPhallus · 02/09/2019 22:17

I find the whole transaction very odd

I’m buying at the moment and would have no reason to contact the seller to tell them I have or haven’t found a solicitor to use

SleepyKat · 02/09/2019 22:18

But from her viewpoint if your offer isn’t accepted you might decide not to move and take the house off the market (inc to her) permanently. And then she would have wasted all that money.

I also wouldn’t pay for a survey in these circumstances no matter how serious I was about your house.

LolaSmiles · 02/09/2019 22:25

No what I'm saying is until they are ready to spend money I shouldn't take it off the market and should instead change it to under offer.
Wrong way round

You're not in a position to proceed.
You haven't got anywhere to go to.

3.You are expecting them to shell out hundreds of pounds for something you may or may not sell to them

You're trying to force their hand by going for "under offer". Either you are open to other offers, in which case keep it as under differ because you haven't decided whether to accept their offer yet, or you have accepted their offer and can proceed in which case the property is sold STC. You can't start cherry picking and then be surprised when buyers have an issue with it.

As a buyer I would be walking away from a house where the seller was pushing me to spend money on the property when they won't take it off the market and they haven't got anywhere to go to themselves.

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 22:26

Oh yes I see her POv. And if I was her I would understand if the property was still on the market until the process actually started. It makes me vulnerable if it's not on the market while the process to buying is stationary.

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 22:28

No I'm not expecting them to shell out hundreds. Just do something like find a solicitor and get ready. She hasn't.

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InkedGreen · 02/09/2019 22:33

And no I'm not cherry picking. It was her that said she would order the survey once it was off the market.

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Bigpizzalover · 02/09/2019 22:34

She could find 50 different solicitors online by doing a quick google if that’s all you want, but a solicitor won’t agree to act on your behalf and start any of the process without at least part of a payment. What if the buyer books and pays for a survey and then your offer is declined, that is why they will not do it.

If you made the offer a week ago, you should be chasing up a decision. A survey and a solicitor can be arranged really quickly.

I’m with your buyer

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