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The MN surviving building an extension thread of hints and tips

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WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 01/09/2019 11:25

The ongoing Extension threads are full of useful stuff but I thought it could be helpful to have a separate resource thread with more hints and less chat.
Please feel free add things to that helped maintain your sanity!

Links to products are useful but please also include a description as links can go out of date or be removed by retailers.

Where possible, I have tried to credit MNer who had the tip...

Make sure you check or update your home insurance @MyNameIsJane
You may need to add a small premium. Some insurers will refuse to cover you but should refer you to an alternative insurer.

Zip up dust door @WorrisomeHeart
Keep the extension and "untouched" bit of the house separate

If you are having a skip on your drive, ask the builders to put down boards before it is delivered. This will protect your drive from damage as they tend to slide around during the changeovers
Various available on amazon

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WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 11/09/2019 14:18

Mañana in builderspeak does not mean "tomorrow"

It just means "not today"

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WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 11/09/2019 17:05

If you are taking a kitchen out, it's worth trying to sell it on Facebook Marketplace / local FB sellling groups.
Saves it going to landfill which also saves you disposal costs.
I covered the cost of a fairly good new dishwasher by selling mine

In advance watch for listings to get an idea of which kitchens don't sell cos they are overpriced.
Take loads of photos while it still looks nice!

Label all the units and doors before it is dismantled, so that they can be matched up by buyer.

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Ohgoodness34 · 26/09/2019 22:21

Loving this thread 😍
Take photos of anything you’re throwing out that you may want to sell in situ as it looks much more appealing! Not sure anyone is going to want our old Aga now that it’s going to be photographed sitting on our gravel driveway ...

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 02/10/2019 16:04

Although I mentioned temporary kitchen upthread, it is really worthwhile getting it as "useable" as possible.
I was dreading the No Kitchen hiatus but we have sorted out a fairly ok temp one, so much so that when kitchen installation date was pushed back 3 weeks, I wasn't terribly bothered.
Lack of a sink /running water is the biggest irritation, but I bought a couple of 5 litre bottles of mineral water and refill these to keep water handy. The Tesco ones even have a little loop handle and are fairly robust but not too heavy.
Mistake I made was buying a really cheap washing up bowl which is a bit bendy when full.

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WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 23/10/2019 15:38

Another "bitter voice of experience" tip...
If you have a burglar alarm you may need to disable or remove some sensors during the building work.
Let the builders know and LABEL ANY WIRES.

Mine are now buried in the plaster...

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OatyGoaty · 23/10/2019 18:29

*Accept that you will never lose the weight you put on due to:
Stress
Wine
Gin
An inability to get to the gym
Takeaways/meals out because you have no kitchen
It taking at least twice as long as you ever thought it would
Stress
Wine
Gin
Stress

I'm 2.5 years AE (After Extension) because it does almost split your life and am still about 2 stone heavier than BE (Before Extension)*

Oh my word. I thought this was just me. I've still not really recovered and it was four years ago. Never did get back to the gym.

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 05/11/2019 15:19

If you are having a skip on your drive, ask the builders to put down boards before it is delivered. This will protect your drive from damage as they tend to slide around during the changeovers

This is what my drive looks like now after 3 months of skip changeovers (at least 3 skips), spillages from bags of sand, cement and hardcore. Concrete and plaster mixing
...because builder put down a tarpaulin and plywood boards first.

You wouldn't know they had been there!

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WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 05/11/2019 15:20

Photo would be useful!

The MN surviving building an extension thread of hints and tips
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WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 02/01/2020 11:46

Sadly a tip from a fellow extender...
Most kitchen companies require payment in advance if they are making to order.
Pay by credit card (not debit or bank transfer) so that you have some financial protection if they go bust or do a runner.

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lightlypoached · 02/01/2020 14:11

Pay for everything on credit card -or even part of it.

We lost £1000s when our kitchen company went bankrupt. We would have been protected if we'd paid even part of it. ConfusedShock

lightlypoached · 02/01/2020 14:12

Take before photos inside and outside the house. Useful to assess any damage caused by the builders.

lightlypoached · 02/01/2020 14:15

Keep a written record of anything agreed -at the time you agree it.

You will forget the details of conversations and it's very useful to have an email trail between you and builder to confirm what was agreed.

Make sure any changes or tweaks to plans are confirmed in writing. That way if they 'misinterpret' or do it wrong they can't claim you asked them to do it. Grin

Had this when they built our door opening the wrong size.

lightlypoached · 02/01/2020 14:20

Temp kitchen

IKEA make a brilliantly little plug in induction hob that means you don't have to rely entirely on microwave

www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/tillreda-portable-induction-hob-white-40331630/

Also worth getting a plug on tiny oven/grill again so you can cook half decent meals. Got mine on FB marketplace for £30.

Both have saved us a fortune on take sways and pre prepped food.

MustardScreams · 02/01/2020 14:29

This thread is a goldmine, thanks for all the tips!

I’m having front and back gardens completely torn out and redone, kitchen widened, 3 doors being moved, a window being raised and one made larger, new bathroom and en-suite and new inner and front/back doors. All happening at roughly the same time in 3 weeks.

I have 1 dd and fabulous neighbours that have offered their spare bedroom through the worst of it but I’m absolutely dreading it.

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 02/01/2020 15:12

Another tip from someone else-
If you know anyone with a metal detector, it's useful for finding all those dozens of nails that escape from nail guns when they are doing joists and roofing.

Particularly if you know your plans (both written and mental) inside out, mits easy to assume the builder knows exactly what you want. Mine tried to install a nearly square window with the hinge at the side (as is normal) and not hinge at top (as per the design)

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DavenotChas · 02/01/2020 15:22

Add an instant pot to your temporary kitchen set up and you're good to go. We lasted 4 months with IP, microwave and toaster with very few takeaways. Fresh pasta cooks far more quickly/easily than dried so that featured heavily!

Ohgoodness34 · 21/01/2020 17:09

if you want to keep anything, label it clearly as the message may not be passed on to everyone and you may end up losing things that you wanted to keep, such as original features, doors etc.
Also, if you’re hoping to re use original doors, don’t assume that they will build new door frames that will fit those doors. Be clear about what size you want them to be.

Cover up anything that you don’t want to get damaged or dirty. This may sound obvious but don’t expect your plasterers to cover up your bath properly for example and it’s very difficult to get plaster off things!

Buy cheap mugs so that your nice ones stay nice!

Think in advance about areas you can save money on such as portaloo hire, number of skips etc as your builder is unlikely to. We were happy for our builders to use our downstairs loo (protected theFloor from muddy feet) so sent back the portaloo and saved ourselves £150 per month and asked them not to put any wood in the skip, instead we chopped up and used loads for firewood and had a bonfire for the rest. This saved loads in skip hire. We also had scrap metal merchants take away any metal for free.

Don’t assume that your architect got it right. Ours miscalculated various measurements and this impacted the costs.
Also our builder had some better design ideas which we are so pleased we listened to. This is because we made it clear up front that we were willing to listen to any ideas he might have.

Make as many up front decisions as you can to avoid having to make decisions on the spot. We have made countless rushed decisions and purchases because things were sprung on us even though we asked that plumbers, electricians etc gave us prior warning.

Find out when sales are coming and ask about discounts. Ask your builder what discounts they are entitled to and you can take advantage of.

If you’re doing a big build with one builder who is project managing the build and using their own trusted trades people: Talk to the individual trades people. They are often a wealth of information and can tell you what other customers have done well and show you photos etc. Find out where they buy things from - we saved loads on door handles which looked the same as the v expensive ones we’d originally chosen because our carpenter always used a particular ironmongers website. The same for our radiators with our plumber.
If you don’t talk to them, they will often assume that’s what you want, whether they think it’s a bad idea or not.

Find out what you can do yourself to save money such as chip off old floor tiles, pull out old kitchen units etc. And be clear about whether you’re paying trades people for the day or the job. If you’re paying them for the day, what else can they do that day when they’ve finished what they came to do?

Ask your builder up front what time you can expect people to arrive and leave. We were initially horrified that all of the builders left by 2pm every day. No one explained that this would happen or why.

Sorry for the brain dump but these are all things we will know for next time

missfliss · 08/02/2020 19:28

Just following this

itsUnderMyPillow · 09/02/2020 10:26

Loving this post . Wish I'd had this as a resource when I was doing up my home. I used a concept planner - that is my top tip - saved me hours with various showrooms as I just rocked up with my finished designs and asked them to give me their best prices as a quotation. Worked well with builders too as I could show them the panoramic or drawings and say that's what I wanted, not this !
This isn't mine, I've pulled it off the concept planners page on Houzz but you can see the detail they go into !

panorama.2020.net/view/h4rkcotoqumjso5ljetvsq/

Pinched the image from here to show you !
www.houzz.co.uk/photos/kb-s-kitchen-design-traditional-kitchen-phvw-vp~148576239

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 19/02/2020 20:32

As suggested above, take loads of before photos , but also take during photos so that you have a record of just how hideous it was, and you can look back and smile. Also take photos of plumbing runs and wiring before it all gets covered up with plaster.
I didn't take many in progress photos, but our builder did for his Facebook page, and I downloaded those to create a Thank God it's Over Album .

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Linguaphile · 20/02/2020 10:42

I echo the poster above who said to be as specific as possible at the quote stage. This will help you to get the best idea of what it will actually cost and will save you stress when the bills come rolling in.

Also agree with mocking it up yourself in a program so that you can show your builder. A bit like going to the hairdresser, a picture or drawing of your vision is the best way to communicate what you want. The builder will also then easily be able to speak to where improvements to your design might be made.

Definitely think through the electrical carefully, and possibly hire a lighting designer. Lighting is so important, and if you get it wrong the whole space will be slightly off. A designer’s services shouldn’t be too expensive for just a room or two—all you need is a consult on what lighting to put where—but people often overlook it even though it is something that will make a big difference to the feel of the room. Also triple check your switch placement—we have a few switches in the wrong place (like behind the door) which is mega annoying. Finally, always include more plugs than you think you’ll need. Think about the stupid stuff like where you’ll plug in things like Christmas lights or where you’ll plug in a wall charging hoover. Ditto for the kitchen—loads of outlets. My favourite thing in our house is the liberal use of master switches so that we can turn on all of the lamps in each room in one go.

RestorationInsanity · 20/02/2020 14:21

Sugar cubes for the builders instead of bags of sugar, no sugar granules everywhere, no teaspoons in and out of different things. Brilliant!

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 20/02/2020 14:49

Yes yes yes to sugar cubes!

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MrsMoastyToasty · 20/02/2020 14:55

Save money by doing all internal painting from the mist coat on new plaster onwards yourself.

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 26/06/2020 15:51

If you have a local Screwfix or similar, get a loyalty card before you start.
You will end up buying loads of little bits and pieces, especially for trades that only come in for one day and despite having a very well stocked van , they are missing an essential widget.
It's much more efficient for you to go and buy it and let them keep plumbing or whatever

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