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Walking away from house purchase

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Neet90 · 19/07/2019 05:17

So we have been on and off the market for a year and a half, trying to find the right house and have our sale line up with our onward purchase which they finally have, but now I think we will end up walking away.

We found a house over budget but just about doable, it's in a nice location, lovely big garden, detached, driveway for 2 cars and 5 bedrooms making it bigger than any other house we had seen, but it has a cellar prone to groundwater flooding.

Of course we were concerned about the water issue in the cellar, the owners said there was a spring under the house but claimed they were fine using a sump pump from time to time. We went ahead and offered hoping that our minds would be put at ease.

We were able to get our mortgage offer but enquiries with the council, water board and environment agency showed that they were unaware of a spring or a particular flood risk for the house. A cellar company that agreed to have a look said that there was a well under the house and likely a perched water table and suggested a cell membrane drainage system coating 15-20k but doing that wouldn't make the room habitable as it's too low.

The building survey didn't seem too concerning other than wood rot, but our telephone call with the surveyor was. He said that even if we could afford to do the house up, the flat roof 2 storey extension and flooding cellar in particular would put future purchasers off and neither of them would be matters you could fully solve. He said there were a lot of risks and if it were him he wouldn't buy the house and suggested that for us to have a fighting chance we would need to get it for 25-30k less than we offered.

We contacted the agent about a reduction but because the cellar was a noticeable issue they feel it doesn't warrant the reduction suggested. Because the house is at the top of what we can afford we need to know if our circumstances were to change we would be able to sell it without having to wait ages or make a big loss, I also worry about the ongoing risk of water damage even if you install a system to try and keep it at bay or the risk of flooding which would also mean unaffordable insurance premiums.

I appreciate the sellers probably think we are being a pain and I do feel bad. Our revised offer was at the price the surveyor suggested to us on the phone, he has apparently spoken to the estate agent also but they don't believe the survey itself (which didn't alarm us much either) or whatever he has said warrants such a reduction. I think we ought to walk away based upon what the surveyor has said and the fact we would never have full peace of mind about the flood risk but I worry we won't find such a big house elsewhere, also we will lose our buyer and be back at square 1, plus our daughter is meant to start school this year so I had hoped we would have exchanged this summer so we knew what was happening address and school place wise.

I know I will worry about any house move as it's such a big step but I guess I just want reassurance that we should walk away, the house would be too much hassle, it's all meant to be and things will work out in the end.

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AbbieLexie · 20/07/2019 16:35

We did alterations / extensions because of my health. The architect came up with this. The half of the cellar as shown in the photograph is deeper because we needed to pay £5K for every 12" that was dug out to make it deeper. This was the extra depth we could financially manage. It would be better if it was deeper! But, that's life. There have been lots of problems which can all be laid at the builder's door. Flooded x3 up stairs etc. Because of this we slowly invested in trolleys and wheels - everything moves. Easy for cleaning. The company (who should have been there at the beginning) have been brilliant. The cellar is amazing. I / we think it has enhanced our day to day lives. If I moved I would now need see a cellar as essential - either already there or able to put one in. To be able to stand properly would be an advantage! I have problems with my back so being bent can be normal! I am slight envious of shorter in stature people who visit and are able to freely walk about.

SleepWarrior · 20/07/2019 16:46

I'd want to know about the sellers current insurance - have they declared the previous flood and the spring, and if so what are they paying. Worth speaking directly to a variety of insurance companies too and seeing whether they would actually count cellar water as a proper flood, and if an unofficial spring (where you only have word of mouth that it exists) actually matters from their point of view.

It's a lovely house, and if you can insure it and damp proof then those issues don't have to be deal-breakers. All depends how risk averse you are and how much it would play on your mind, and those things are very individual.

ElstreeViaduct · 20/07/2019 16:46

That is a good point NotjustaCigar, and easy to lose sight against the combination of prettiness and size.

RandomMess · 20/07/2019 16:49

As part of converting the cellar it could be possible to dig down to give it room height.

It is worth getting around specialist cellar companies to give you a quote.

Neet90 · 20/07/2019 16:54

@ElstreeViaduct oh are you local? yes it's up the hill, almost near the top which is perhaps why it's so unexpected. Bit of a long walk to the schools and about 10 min walk to the park and shop at the bottom by the river.

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RandomMess · 20/07/2019 17:02

Ours was a garage and undercroft rooms. We are at the top of the hill and in heavy rain the water used to flood through them if that makes sense.

They had to dig down to give us head height but obviously they could use a mini digger via the garage door which would have made it cheaper.

The pump has a battery back up and it all survived Storm Desmond despite no mains electricity for 48 hours then only having it daylight hours for a further 5 days Shock

Neet90 · 20/07/2019 17:03

@NotJustACigar it was nice, we weren't so concerned until we spoke to him on the telephone but he said personally he woudlnt buy it and suggested that we would need to get it for 350 or less to 'stand a chance'

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ElstreeViaduct · 20/07/2019 17:07

Yes. I like the location, I have only driven round there but I guess it would be walkable into Eastleigh and the station. I hear great things about the microbrewery near the sports centre. The steam town, steam tap, something like that?

Neet90 · 21/07/2019 23:44

No further along with a decision. My husband is keen to move out of our house and really likes the space of the new house, particularly as he would still have room for a man cave; meanwhile I'm still worried I didn't get 'The feeling', can't picture everything there and worry we will want to move again.

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Neet90 · 22/07/2019 05:38

So i have barely slept and am no more sure of anything, whoops.

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flouncyfanny · 22/07/2019 07:28

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Neet90 · 22/07/2019 08:23

@flouncyfanny I'm losing sleep over worrying about house stuff and school stuff on top. I think there is a structure in the cellar helping to support the joist above, atleast 2 of the joists need replacing then hopefully you can get rid of that. Oh I didn't think there had been a window. I don't know if the fireplace was ever used but there is one in the room above. There is supposedly some guarantee left from when they last replaced the flat roof. I agree with your points about the issues not going away, the extension and cellar wont ever be ideal.

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LoveMyNewHome · 23/07/2019 00:44

Forget this house. You don't like it anyway & it will be a bugger to sell on in future. Why not continue with your sale & rent a cheap place in the area you want to live within the catchment area for the school you want for a year while looking for something that suits you better? Also, have you considered doing a leaflet drop on houses in the area to see if anyone is considering selling? I have successfully done this twice.

AbbieLexie · 23/07/2019 10:25

@abbielexie can I be nosey and ask how much water yoir cellar had before, how much it cost to waterproof and what they actually did to waterproof it and give you peace of mind? Thanks! I'm

Apologies for my late response. The cellar was originally just for storage which we needed. The architect designed it. When it was being dug out and the rafters for the floor above put it was really when the full potential of the cellar dawned on us. The cellar is 25' x 7'. Half has been dug deeper but the cost was astronomical. 5K for every 12". The builders were a disaster. They cut the waterproof membranes in several places for the lower part of the cellar. We were flooded several times. Water was 2-3' lapping up the stairs into the kitchen. Eventually we insisted on a Specialist company - Wise was employed - we are in Scotland. I cannot praise them enough. They didn't see it as a huge problem! I would suggest getting quotes from recommended damp proofing experts. I don't know the cost because the builder had to deal with that. Ongoing costs are annual maintenance of the pump and a 5 yearly replacement of the pump. I occasionally notice it kicking in after heavy rain. The situation you describe wouldn't put me off now. I'd see it as an opportunity to get things right.

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