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Help!! Builder has done a runner with my money

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CamdenTownie · 22/06/2019 14:19

Hey everyone,

Just after some advice really, we started a big project with a builder back at the end of February. We found him on my builder and he had good reviews etc met him a few times and had great discussions about our plans etc.

Anyway he started out ok with the footings etc we paid him 25% of the cost up front and had the ground works done, he asked for more money and we paid him, brick layers started and the work became very slow, we were both at work from very early until 7pm so didn't see anyone but could tell that not much was happening with regards to the work that was planned.

Basically he's had £110,000 from us ( that's not the whole amount we agreed at the start, but a huge chunk) and is now completely avoiding us and practically ghosting us, ignoring calls and messages, every time he's supposed to be here he has a family emergency or is away for a few days etc, he told us previously that he's paid for windows, internal and external doors roof lantern, roof tiles and all carpentry plus other stuff. The last few times he's asked for more money I've had to refuse and insist that he gets the current jobs completed first.

In the last month we've had about two half days of work done. He keeps promising that bricks are being delivered but they never show up.

He lives fairly local to us and I just can't understand why he would behave like this. I've since found out that he hasn't paid any of the tradesmen, brickies, groundwork's or carpenters, even though he's taken over £100000 from us. He gave break downs of where all the money was supposed to be going and I paid him by bank transfer.

He is registered at his home address as a limited company, and I'm terrified that this means that not only will I never get the building works completed but that I can't claim against him if he simply decides to fold the company.

At the moment we are living on a building site which is stressful enough, but the reason for the extension was because my husband has numerous health conditions and needs easy access accommodation with a wet room etc. I can't even let my dog out into the garden because it's not safe.

There's no way I can afford to get the work completed by someone else as I had to double my mortgage to get the money to pay for this work, equally I can't face living like this for the long term.

Does anyone have any advice, obviously I know in hind sight I shouldn't have handed over so much money, I trusted this guy because he seemed so professional and had good reviews on my builder but has since deleted his account with them.

I don't even know what I'd say to him if he did show up, I'm so upset and dh really doesn't need all this added stress as he has so much to deal with at the moment with his health.

If you've got this far thanks 🙏

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Loveislandfan · 26/06/2019 23:01

My god I feel absolutely sick for you. Sick.

It both terrifies and appals me that that builders can get away with this. You put all of your trust in this person with nothing but their word/other peoples word that they’ll do the job for you and do it well and then they rip you off for the value of a bloody house!! And to be so blatant about it too, new car etc Angry

I don’t think I’d be able to stop myself going round there and getting it all over fb and the papers. There’s no reason you’d need to be in any pics or anything! If you can’t get your money back then at least make his life hell.

If you’re anywhere in Scotland please PM me the name as we’re looking to have an extension built next year.

Yokohamajojo · 27/06/2019 14:47

How horrible, have you done a social media search on his name/company. Have a look on Next Door as well, just to see if anyone else have had bad dealings with him. Hope it will all get sorted out for you.

CamdenTownie · 29/07/2019 15:35

So I have an update- builder reappeared after a week or so and was very hurt and offended that we'd taken legal advice.

He gave us a written plan of works and assured us that it would all go smoothly from here on, and to give him a second chance ( had no choice as he has our money!) fast forward a few weeks and he's back to his old ways, only one of the jobs has been completed ( a very small one) and he's only been turning up here and there, telling more lies and saying that there are problems with structural drawings etc.

Spoke to some of the other tradesmen and he's told them that we can't move forward and book them in as we haven't paid him! All the while he's been telling us that they are coming and given us dates etc.

So I'm starting to seriously think that he's just stolen our money.

No idea how we will scrape together thousands of pounds to put it right, we don't even have a roof at the moment as the roofers taken all the slate off and now won't come back to sort it( because the builder or project manager as he calls himself has told him we owe him money) We will obviously have to get this done but it's money we've already paid out once.

I actually hate being at home, it's a constant battle with the mess, sand and dust everywhere and it's so depressing to think there's no end in sight. We can't live like this for the foreseeable future, but I've no idea how we can get the £60 or so thousand pounds together that we'd need to get it finished. We will be paying that off for the next 25 years as it is and just have a building site to show for it!

Dh has high blood pressure so this really isn't helping, but I feel so useless. And let down. What sort of person does this?

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lifebegins50 · 29/07/2019 15:55

Have you got the work valued by a QS? I am just wondering if you contacted the MD of a building firm to tell them of the situation and ask for QS valuation.

It might not work but there are decent companies out there.

Just to relierate, no builder should ask for cash upfront, only staged payments as most reputable builders will have trade accounts and should have enough cashflow for labour.

We had a builder once quote for a big extension, he seemed very nice and had done a small job for us. He asked for 25% upfront and turned really nasty when we questioned it..definite bullet dodged.

Building work is stressful enough without this. I really hope your solicitor can help

Have you been around to his house?

growlingbear · 29/07/2019 16:04

OP, I'd get very blunt. Tell him you have contacted the TV shows and he has 48 hours to replay your money or you will give full details to both shows and Daily Mail.
Tell him you will turn up at his wedding and when the question is asked if anyone knows any lawful reason you will interrupt the ceremony to say, Yes, the wedding was paid for by fraud. You could even get the police onto him. They are not averse to interrupting a wedding. Put the frighteners on him. And get your solicitor to increase their threats.

Rivkka · 29/07/2019 16:14

What a total nightmare.

I agree with stopping being nice. Ask him
Why he's lying to people that you've not paid him and tell him you're going public within 24hours

CamdenTownie · 01/08/2019 12:23

So he's finally admitted that he hasn't got a penny of our money left, but reckons he doesn't know where it's gone or how it's been spent. How do you spend the best part of £100k and not know how??

QS coming to do an inspection report, not feeling hopeful that we will get anything back. He will probably just disappear.

We have to scrimp and scrape massively now to get the basics complete he even took the whole roof off knowing full well that he had no intention of putting the new one on. So we have no roof on our house to add the problem. I've had to cancel my 13 year olds birthday meal because we need to save the cash now Sad

No windows and just a shell for the extension, the bricks have been left half done, and we can't proceed using our own tradesmen until the reports are complete etc.

What kind of person does this? Really can't understand why anyone thinks this is ok.

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ThirdAidKit · 01/08/2019 12:57

I know it seems extreme, but I’m with Buzz tbh.

StillSmallVoice · 01/08/2019 14:06

Something similar happened to us and we also lost a lot of money, as did a lot of other people, including his workmen. The company just went bust, and we found out afterwards that he'd done the same thing several times and got away with it.

Someone told me later that another disgruntled client went round and landed him in hospital.

I felt very sorry for the workers who had no wages and no job in the week before Christmas.

rosesandcashmere · 01/08/2019 15:27

Have you tried Nick Knowles or could you set up a go fund me?

BlueSkiesLies · 01/08/2019 17:13

Something similar happened to us and we also lost a lot of money, as did a lot of other people, including his workmen. The company just went bust, and we found out afterwards that he'd done the same thing several times and got away with it.

+1

Except no one put our builder in hospital, more's the pity

Mgreen555 · 17/09/2020 19:23

Hi Camden , I know it’s been a while since you posted this but it is the exact same thing that is happening to me now, the house is not liveable now and the builder has stripped house and now I’m finding it very difficult to get hold of him, can you tell me if this has been resolved and if so how you did it

Dreambow · 02/11/2022 07:48

Hi @CamdenTownie and @Mgreen555,
Sorry this has happened to you. The same thing has happened to us and I was wondering if you managed to get some resolution? 🙏 We are so stressed with worry.

Diyextension · 02/11/2022 08:21

Can’t really add anything as the legal advice here has been excellent, but if you lived close to me I’d come round and try and help out a bit ( manually ) where I could. Things like this are sadly all too common 🙁

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