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Would you buy (or have you bought) a new build?

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GoofyIsACow · 16/03/2019 15:49

I have always said i would never buy a new build but i have just seen a great opportunity (location, spec and price, on paper!) and i’m considering it!
I know new builds get bad press so would you mind sharing your experiences good and bad please?

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greenelephantscarf · 16/03/2019 21:48

only if I could superwise the built.

WishIwas19again · 17/03/2019 06:46

Go in with your eyes open as there are potential risks, my brother chose to pull out and lose his plot deposit on a new build after reading about this, although I don't know if things have changed now so worth checking
www.which.co.uk/news/2018/06/to-have-or-to-leasehold-inside-the-scandal-rocking-the-new-homes-industry

We live next to a small ''exclusive" development built by Yelcon and there have been problem after problem, so a smaller developer is not a guarantee. We watched the property that backs onto our garden go up while we were doing renovations ourselves and all our contractors commented how poor the quality of their build was, tradesmen are recruited and paid by the day ("jobbing trades" they called them) and travel nationally so they don't have any accountability or care about the finished product. Our trades said they refused to work on new build sites as they are poorly managed and often dangerous. You can actually see the difference in the layers of the wall where different brickies worked on it.

A friend bought her house when pregnant and had to move out to temporary housing for 3 months with her new born after the plaster started falling off the walls as it hadn't been allowed to dry properly, the whole house had to be stripped back to brick and done again.

Another friend had to have the whole of their ground floor concrete floor (It was a townhouse) taken up two years after they moved in as damp had penetrated and the floor was rising up and bubbling.

I'm sure there are good developers and these are just very unlucky examples, but I think you also need to be cautious of the values, some sold locally to me 2/3 years ago are now being sold on but because the prices were inflated with help to buy they are having to sell for less than the original sale price. They paid a premium for their choice of tile/kitchen etc but house prices have stayed stagnant round our way.

Sorry if that's a very negative post, do your research, choose carefully

Bluesheep8 · 17/03/2019 07:53

We bought our first house off plan 20 years ago. Lived there for 16 years and it was fine. I wouldn't want to live on an estate though, this was a small development of just 8 houses. It was built by a well regarded firm who were local to that area and because we were the first to move in when our house was complete, it meant they were still working on the site so I could go to them with any issues. We only moved from that house in order to relocate.

EllieNor · 17/03/2019 07:58

We've been in ours since November and love it. Had a few snags to begin with but soon as the workmen on site round the corner know they're round and sorting it, they've been fab that way. They've also been really considerate whilst working on the last houses. The rooms are actually much bigger than we're used to, we have brilliant storage including a pantry room with a light great for hide and seek and we have off-road parking for two cars with lots of visitor parking spaces nearby. The road is narrow outside which hasn't been a problem and is a supposed traffic calming measure (we are tucked away so a bit redundant!) but that does bug me.

The back garden wasn't turfed as standard and was sloped down to the house, however we've had so much rain recently with no leaks or pooling so that's reassured me a little, our garden is due to be done soon privately and expensively. Keep in mind you could have to literally start with a blank slate, (tiles/blinds/curtains etc) it's been more expensive than we realised. Can't think of anything else that's bugged us, overall we're very happy here and with the experience so far. Oh, the cracking, everything is cracking with settlement but so easy to fix with a little calk and we were expecting that so it's not a big deal at all!

HappyDinosaur · 17/03/2019 08:01

I live in a 4 bed semi and absolutely love it. We had it from new, with very few problem.s, the tiny ones we did have were sorted very swiftly and easily. I liked That we had lots of choice, doors, kitchen, tiles etc., rather than having to find something that needed doing up. I think you have to just look at the individual house and location carefully. Older houses can end up hacing big problems too! When we were looking we found a couple of estates that just weren't right for us. The one we liked and chose has green spaces and decent roads, it just personal preference.

WhoTFIsAlanBrazil · 17/03/2019 08:05

We bought a new build 8 years ago, it's a Taylor Wimpey.

It has been a brilliant house so far and we are very happy with it.

There were a few small niggles when we moved in which were all put right in a matter of days. We had hired an independent snagging inspector to check the house over and even he was impressed.

We had a small issue with the guest en suite which we discovered a few weeks after moving in (the shower only produced cold or boiling water, nothing in between), as soon as we told TW they sent someone to fix it that same day.

We bought the house before it was built so we also had the option to add extra sockets, change the placement of radiators, etc.

The white goods supplied with the house were all good quality (AEG), as were the carpets and tiles (I asked the foreman for a few spare tiles in case we ever needed to make a repair and he kindly obliged)

It has been a great experience for us!

Strawberry2017 · 17/03/2019 08:44

I would never buy persimmon, I'm constantly heading about people with problems with them.
I had a miller home and loved that

breakthepattern · 17/03/2019 09:12

We have a Bellway and it's been great. Some snagging and silly things but they all got sorted. Some neighbours have had similar experiences and some have had far worse and now hate the builder.
We love our house and I'd definitely do it again.

Heyha · 17/03/2019 09:18

I did/do, house is in a corner so practically no frontage other than the path, front door and downstairs loo so it looks pokey but it takes up the whole corner of the run, meaning our main living space isn't directly attached to anyone despite being a 'town house'. And being the corner we have a decent garden. But I wouldn't pay a penny for next door!
Builder was good after a couple of years needed a couple of roof tiles, no bother though they were still on site finishing the last set of houses so that probably helped. Definitely depends on the individual plot that's on offer. Can't hurt to have a look Smile

katienana · 17/03/2019 09:23

My parents have just moved into a new build and its lovely, set in woodland. Loads of space between houses, and they are nice looking houses, stone built and traditional looking. The garden is huge too! The rooms are a bit smaller than their old house but bathrooms are bigger.
I live in a 30s semi and I prefer my style of house BUT I can see the appeal in moving in somewhere that's a blank slate without 50 years of other people's crap DIY to erase.

ginghamstarfish · 17/03/2019 09:25

I dream of living in a brand new house ... but don't want to live on an estate. Too many people, too much noise, and I've had neighbour problems more than once. A brand new house on its own though - if it existed - would be marvellous.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/03/2019 09:32

“Can’t stand the lack of parking, everyone knowing everyone’s business and kids playing all over the street and abandoning bikes and scooters in the road. Having a new front door or railings or shutters and everyone else copying you. I could go on, cheap kitchens, skinny skirting boards, cheap shower cubicles, nasty tiling and taps and worktops, no cornices, horrid doors, no character”

This. Cheap everything as only chosen to make a profit. Plus no storage. Too many houses on the land available so they all feel very squashed together and with barely any parking for visitors. Some of them are on dodgy land that shouldn’t have been built on iMO so that there are problems with drainage in gardens. Ie homeowners gets an expensive new lawn laid and then wonders why it looks so shit after 6 months.

Low ceilings. Space given to unnecessary en suite in 3 bed small semis so that second and third bedroom are too small. Poor kitchen diners so that you end up with barely any work surface (people forget that you need space for microwave, kettle, toaster, maybe a radio etc). Owners end up prepping food in a tiny gap. If it’s all open plan you’ve lost wall space on which to put cupboards so not enough cupboard storage either. Would be ok if the diner part was big enough to put a dresser/unit but they’re often tiny. It’s all done for profit and it’s hard to undo the poor quality eg kitchen layout is for a single oven combined with grill , which is fine in a holiday home but if you’re at all interested in cooking you’re going to want a separate oven/grill combo in addition to that.

When you look round show homes they have undersized furniture eg v small dining table or only one sofa and a chair etc to try and hide the fact that they are a lot smaller in proportion than an older traditional semi.

Erm... what else....no porches. You walk in the front door and the stairs are straight in front of you. So where do you put coats and shoes and umbrellas? Push chair and rain cover? Keys? Dirty wellies? Etc? Stuff you want to put by the front door to remind you to post?

Lots of estates don’t even have any pavements, that’s just weird. but probably because they’re huge and sprawling and have no amenities or even bus stops so you have no choice but to drive if you want to pick up a load of bread, like some places in the USA.

Poor investment. In real terms (and sometimes actual) many small new build semis have lost value in the last 10-15 years, whereas, say, a small Victorian terrace will have gone up loads. Too many are new builds are leasehold round here which is a REALLY poor idea and should be made illegal. Often house builders only got permission to build on the land by agreeing to make them leasehold with various conditionsz. Buyers don’t seem to be aware of the implications and have a head in the sand mentality about it. They should ask themselves what the land had been used for before and eg if the land was just unused previously why did the 60s/70s estate adjoining it not reach as far as that? Why now was it only just being built on after many years with no houses on? Could it have been that it was considered unsuitable for building in the 60s/70s because of eg poor drainage/risk of flooding but because of the housing shortage now, rules seem to have been relaxed somewhat?

brownfield sites are different. Change of use of the land can be fine. Eg lack of interest in out of town uni residential blocks because everyone wants to live in town these days. So land is sold off and outdated 60s student accommodation knocked down and decent new builds go up in their place instead. You pay for it though....

Even some of the expensive new builds annoy me so much. If on a main road they are built forward, too close to the road, compared to surrounding older houses which are on bigger plots. I would NOT be paying half a million quid for a house where my bedroom window is only a few feet away from people staring at me from the top deck of a bus. For that money I’d expect a decent driveway and front garden space so the hkuse was set well back from the road like the older much cheaper houses down the road!!

Can you tell I’m not fan?! Grin So no, over my dead body would we buy a new build on an estate. If I had the money I’d buy a big posh one on a very small development maybe.

I think people are blinded by the newness of the show home when they compare it to lookign round an older semi which has swirly carpet everywhere and needs new kitchen and bathroom and decorating everywhere. But given the choice between ready to move into new build and older semi that needed work I woukd choose the project every time.

moosesormeece · 17/03/2019 09:38

I wouldn't personally because round here they're all overpriced compared to older houses with the same number of rooms (I actually typed "same size" but that would be a lie as the rooms are so tiny!), and everyone seems to have a lot of hassle selling them on without losing money. My mortgage advisor reckoned the help to buy scheme was effectively functioning as a bonus to the builder.

On the other hand my parents live in a new (well, new 20 years ago) build that's been great. It was a small local builder and he intended to move in to one of the houses himself, so not only was the estate designed with someone who actually wanted to live there in mind, but also he didn't want his new neighbours to hate him so the standard was very high and the snagging was very prompt and argument-free.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/03/2019 09:40

But I agree with someone who said undoing someone else’s Crap DIY is a nuisance. Some extensions are so badly done, and odd choices of layout which makes it more expensive to undo and therefore potentially devalue the house.

I would prefer to buy a blank canvas semi, where previous owner had lived most of their lives and done little to the layout so that over the years I could upgrade everything as I could afford it. Eg first take wood chip off walls and swirly carpets out and do basic decoration everywhere if that was all I could afford. Get new bathroom put in when I had the money. Later on get an extension/kitchen done.

hoochymamgu · 17/03/2019 11:20

Heck yes Grin
Be wary though, a lot depends on the company and site manager. Be prepared for lots of snagging.

UserAlice · 17/03/2019 11:31

Bought a brand new Redrow 3 years ago. It’s great. Detached, 4 double bedrooms, double driveway, garage, decent sized garden, utility room, airing cupboard, two large storage cupboards, bay windows in living room and master bedroom, big windows generally (lots of new builds have small windows), high-spec kitchen with two ovens, no skinny skirting boards! Everyone comments on how much character it has for a new build.

Honestly it is great and I have no regrets. You can expect some snagging issues, but that’s the “price” you pay for no one having lived there and therefore they can’t test everything regularly and properly before (eg we had an issue with our en-suite shower which no one could have known about unless they had taken several showers in our house). It was sorted same day (even though it required digging up the garden!).

However, we live next door to a Persimmon estate and the quality / size of homes, layout of estate and lack of parking etc is a huge problem. So it can really vary.

Do your research on the developer and development and make sure it is a Freehold.

GreyGardens88 · 17/03/2019 11:34

Some are tastefully built, using stone and with each one having its own character. They're the good ones however they tend to be expensive. The ones that are red brick identikit boxes I can't stand

Boom76 · 17/03/2019 12:04

Bought one 3 years ago fromBellway. Love it. Bills reduced greatly and it’s more than big enough for us. 4 bed detached and decent sized garden. We had no problems whatsoever with snagging. I’d definitely buy new build again

sluj · 17/03/2019 12:14

Some of these replies have made me smile. Every site and design is different and you get what you pay for, the same as an old house. Not every new build is small, has low ceilings and no porch!! Ours was quite the opposite when we moved in 16 years ago and it was lovely to have everything shiny and new with builders still on site to fix initial snagging. We literally came in the door and pulled all the stickers off the new toilets and the built in white goods with a big sigh of relief.

It was such a contrast to our previous money pit Victorian house.

HoneyDragon · 17/03/2019 12:22

I bought new build on an estate. Off road parking for three cars plus garage and a large back garden. Absolute love it.

It’s a struggle to know what horror stories to go by on the development as on my estate the two families with genuine build issues haven’t gone public as the respective builders are doing their best to resolve it.

They are let down however, by people posting all over social media complaining trying to get freebies. For example the woman who tells everyone her house was build backwards and she got no compensation. It wasn’t it was just the opposite way to the drawings on the advertising. Or another who is threatening legal action because the bus goes past their house.Grin

It’s the same as any home purchase. There are always risks but if it’s the right house, location and price than being a new build shouldn’t put you off.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/03/2019 14:08

I think the people who are happiest with their new builds are the ones that have paid the most. Some of them are lovely, individual with plenty of storage and Parking. But most can’t afford to pay that sort of money and just see the “newness” of a standard new build and none of the downsides.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/03/2019 14:11

UserAlice: are your proper bay windows? I’ve seen windows on some new builds that are literally just the window itself that is a bay and not the wall beneath it. So no actual increase in space in the room, as was the reason for bay windows in older houses. Just a very wide window ledge!

SnuggleSnuggleBlanket · 17/03/2019 14:24

Some of the comments on here Hmm Small gardens, no porch, tiny rooms - really? That’s a bit generic isn’t it. It’s going to depend on building company, location and your affordability.

You have to shop around and there are pluses and drawbacks to every house (old and new).

With a new build, it’s worth getting on the site early. Look at the plots and consider the land and future estate.

We were 2nd family on our estate (from around 130 houses). We got a good plot and neighbours (and future buyers) always comment on our plot. South facing, additional space on the drive and separate gargantuas (same style houses on estate didn’t have this), bigger garden, not overlooked at all. We got lucky maybe.

Snags will be there and the house isn’t built like the Victorian ones, but it’s warmer, more economical and doesn’t cost us £200 a month to heat like our last one.

We’re happy in a new build and I’d go for another too (if the plot and location was right!)

SnuggleSnuggleBlanket · 17/03/2019 14:25

*gargantuas = garages Blush

Aragog · 17/03/2019 14:38

We are in our third bee build - two houses and one apartment over the years. Been here for over 14 years. No major issues at all. We've since made changes and added an extension, replaced bathrooms and kitchen, etc - still found no real issues despite doing a fair bit of work. The odd minor thing but you get that with anywhere.

Love it here and I personally like having a brand new hone.

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