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Seeking AST tenancy advice - s21 notices and break clauses

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justforthisnewname · 14/03/2019 20:32

Please does anyone know anything about housing law? I have been told something by a letting agent about an assured shorthold tenancy (AST) which I am not sure is quite right. Some of what I will write will definitely be wrong and I would be very grateful if someone would correct these errors.

I have been told that with an AST a section 8 notice is only used for eviction for rent arrears and section 21 is used in every other circumstance e.g. seeking eviction for antisocial behaviour, significant breach of obligations under the AST etc.

I have been told that I MUST HAVE A BREAK CLAUSE in the AST in order to entertain a section 21 notice. So I would have to allow the tenant to have the right to a break clause at say six months (ie they can leave just because they fancy leaving) in order to give me any right to evict the tenant for breach of the AST. This is the first time I’ve ever heard this and it doesn’t sound right. If I need the break clause then it would follow that if, for example, the tenant significantly breached the AST say at 3 months but I had to have a break clause, as it would not have kicked in in the above example until 6 months it would still be of no use until 6 months?

I had thought that an adequate AST always gave the landlord the right to terminate the AST for significant breach of lease. Obviously nothing is certain if you have to go to the courts. Maybe I have misunderstood how this works but until now I have never heard of a link between terminating an AST for significant breach of lease and break clauses. Really hope that someone can shed some light on this. Thanks very much.

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mumwon · 14/03/2019 20:35

suggest you join RLA worth every penny & its tax deductible they are great & you can ring them to ask any (endless!) questions & their webpage has up to date information

justforthisnewname · 14/03/2019 20:37

Will do (good idea) but I need the answer to this by 9 am tomorrow! Had not even realised there was a problem until 5.30 tonight :)

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mumwon · 14/03/2019 22:07

why do you have to finalize this at 9 am precisely?can you not delay this for a little while? enough time to contact them - you can however look up their website & check is anything is said about this

MiniMum97 · 14/03/2019 23:07

Summary of my understanding :

A section 8 notice is usually needed to evict a tenant within the fixed term. You can only do so with specific grounds such as rent arrears. (there is a set list of grounds).

After the fixed term has ended and the tenancy has become periodic you can evict with a valid section 21 notice providing 2 months notice. Obviously the tenant can also leave by providing notice too. Note that it can take many more months to actually evict a tenant as they don't need to leave until the court has issued a possession order and bailiffs are at the door

If there is a break clause within tenancy that applies during the fixed term you may also be able to evict using a section 21 (ie with no grounds) and the break clause. The break clause would apply to both landlord and tenant.

See the links below for more info:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/renting-privately/during-your-tenancy/if-you-get-a-section-21-notice

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/renting-privately/during-your-tenancy/check-your-section-8-notice/

https://england.shelter.org.uk/housingadvice/eviction/sectionn21eviction/stayinggafteraasection211notice

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