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Being made to move gas metre :-(

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easkew · 20/02/2019 16:36

Help,

We purchased a house in December 2017. It’s end of Terrace with a passageway that gives access to the back garden. When we bought the house there were locked doors on both the front and back of the passageway. A few weeks ago my SO was walking down the passage and smelled gas - he reported the leak to the emergency line and within an hour The local Gas Network company were there. They checked our meter and said it wasn’t leaking - but they did detect a massive leak in the road about 30 yards away.

However, they then said that the meter, which is about 6 feet inside the passageway couldn’t be in a covered space and we would need to pay to have it moved outside. If we did not agree to have it moved and pay for it we were threatened with being cut off. We protested, since the doors are original to the Victorian property and we have an e-mail from the people we bought the house from saying that the doors have always been there and that the current gas meter was installed inside the passageway in the early 2000s. We also have the estate agent pictures showing the front of the house, sadly not the back. But both doors have been there for many years - you can see by the paintwork which is in need to some TLC.

Our first worry is that having talked to the Gas Network company on the phone, they refused to give a cast iron guarantee that (since no alterations were done, blocking in the meter or changing its environment), we would not have to foot the bill. The lady we talked to said that if we hadn’t made any alterations we shouldn’t have to pay, but ultimately it’s up to the site Forman on the day. We’re really worried that he’ll be under pressure not to get his company to pay for this work. And the way the company has treated us so far leaves us under no illusions that they will be nice at all.

The network said they are going to relocate the gas meter outside. As long as they pay for this we thought it would not be an issue. They will dig a trench to remove the old supply that goes underneath our tiny front garden and under the passageway door threshold to the meter, but refuse to use this trench to run a pipe for the new meter, under the threshold to connect up with the existing pipe that came out of the old meter in the passageway. They have said they want to put a thick copper pipe all the way up the left side of the passageway door, along the top and down the other side, then through the door frame. I asked why they couldn’t put the pipe from the new meter to our existing pipe work underground using the trench they will have made and they fobbed me off saying they can’t put copper underground. But surely the gas is all underground before it reaches out meter. Surely there is a type of pipe they can use between the meter and our existing piping that can be put underground?

Our second worry is that we bought the house because it looked lovely and this will ruin it and affect its value. Surely they don’t have to do such a crazy install especially when there is a trench to keep it all out of site?

We are really worried that the Forman will be looking to make the job as easy as possible for him and his gang, and that they can threaten us at every point with just cutting off the gas, and we feel bullied into a position of having no choice or say. We contacted CAB but they were unable to help. We are happy if SGN want to relocate their gas meter, but surely they can do it in a way sympathetic to the building that won’t cause the front of our house to look horrid and for the price to be affected?

Any help and advice very happily received. If anyone’s SO works for a Gas network and is able to give any technical advice we’d be massively grateful.

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PigletJohn · 20/02/2019 19:06

I don't know, but if you can attach a diagram explaining the route of the pipes, it may help.

The pipes on the consumer side of the gas meter are yours, and I suppose you could pay a gasman to reroute them to your taste.

I think the underground pipes will be plastic, as it's corrosion-proof, and the indoor pipes will be metal, so they don't melt in a fire. If you have an older house I suppose you will have wooden floorboards with a cavity beneath. I don't know gas rules.

Round here SGN seem to use their own crews. In some areas you might get a subcontractor. A subcontractor might be willing to do a private job for you to lay the consumer's pipe.

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 21/02/2019 12:41

Do the regs really say it has to be outside? Mine is inside the house, in a cupboard, under the stairs. It was replaced just a few years ago!

Judyskew · 21/02/2019 15:25

Thanks for replies and info. We are being told that our gas meter has to be outside and cannot be in a covered or non-ventilated space. They say that this is against code, and that it has to be moved or they will cut off our gas supply.

TheVonTrappFamilySwingers · 21/02/2019 16:18

I don't think they are telling the truth. In our last house the gas meter was under the stairs (terrace) and we had a leak which SGN sent to fix and no mention was made of it needing to be moved. This was about 5 years ago mind.

TheVonTrappFamilySwingers · 21/02/2019 16:18

Ask them to show you the 'code' in writing.

dontcallmelen · 21/02/2019 17:42

My Dh works for SGN & they will not resite a meter back in the house ie understairs cupboards/hallway as the risk of non ventilation hazard or escape routes in case of a gas leak, so all new services/meters are to outside the house, also the other reason was due to the danger of carpets/flooring being damaged if new pipes had to be laid or repaired.

dontcallmelen · 21/02/2019 17:44

Posted to soon, all outside pipe is PE & interior pipe is copper, also it’s usually much cheaper to have a meter outside, especially if having a new gas supply installed.

Hadalifeonce · 21/02/2019 17:51

Only last week, my mother's gas pipes were all renewed. There was talk of a new outside meter. All the external pipes were dug up and new pipes laid in the same trench; the meter under the stairs was left as it was, surely if there is a 'code', the meter would have been replaced?

dontcallmelen · 21/02/2019 17:55

I think they will only replace the meter if it’s faulty/leaking or if you are having a new gas supply then the meter will be sited outside, if the problem is with the gas supply outside, then they will leave the meter in situ.

Dothehappydance · 21/02/2019 19:08

My mum and dad's gas meter is behind a massive pile of board games underneath the stairs (not a cupboard just within the room) seems a strange 'code' and certainly one that seems to not be universally applied.

dontcallmelen · 21/02/2019 19:29

The thing is, usually meters that are in cupboards/understairs etc were all installed probably a long time ago, before all the regulations that are now in place , whereas now if it’s a new supply/building work/ leaking or faulty meter, it would be now placed outside & would never be installed inside, unless the space had ventilation & wasn’t a hinderence for an escape route, so possibly a garage or basement would be ok but that would be subject to survey carried out by the supplier.

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 21/02/2019 19:46

The thing is, usually meters that are in cupboards/understairs etc were all installed probably a long time ago,

A new digital meter was installed here at the same time as they replaced the pipes in the whole area. It is in a cupboard under the stairs and was installed within the last six years (because it was after I returned to work).

dontcallmelen · 21/02/2019 19:50

I don’t know, maybe it’s not standardised through out the country I’m only going on what Dh has told me what happens in this area.

geordiepidge · 21/02/2019 21:20

I used to live in a flat that was built in around 2008. We moved in in 2013. The gas meter was in a cupboard in our hall (inside the flat). A couple of years later we had a leak and the meter was condemned by the gas supplier - they replaced it in exactly the same spot. If it is a new regulation then it's very, very recent.

PCohle · 21/02/2019 22:41

Is this an issue that should have been picked up by a surveyor when you bought the house? If so you could claim against them.

Judyskew · 22/02/2019 09:58

Thanks all for your replies-much appreciated. The metre isn’t faulty and no problems (the gas leak turned out to be up the road) and it’s in a corridor which is almost like a storage alleyway, with a concrete floor. There currently isn’t anything in it, no carpet, no cupboard-it’s the sort of area you’d store bikes. It’s all original and hasn’t been built or extended on. We have asked for it in writing but they seem to ignore that in our messages, emails and calls. Dontcallmelen - please could I ask you to ask you DH if it’s possible to have plastic pipe on our side of the meter, going underground from the new meter underneath the front door of the passageway and emerging where the ‘old’ meter is/was, to connect it to the existing copper pipe?

dontcallmelen · 22/02/2019 19:47

@Judyskew I will ask my Dh & let you know.

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