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Builders - what to ask them when quoting for an extension

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Loopy9 · 26/11/2018 09:11

Morning
Our first floor lounge/diner/kitchen extension plans are going through the planning dept and I’m at the point where I think I need to get builders to quote for the job.
I’ve got a three builders lined up but what do I need to ask them, include etc when I ask them to quote?
I’ve got my architect drawings but was thinking do I need to tell them about heating, flooring, sockets etc.
Any advice or links to look at would be marvellous.
Thank you

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namechangedtoday15 · 26/11/2018 11:42

The biggest one - VAT inclusive?

Then - to what stage? Assume it's a plaster finish but check.

Most things will be extras - so if you have wooden flooring for example, you'll want that fitting before skirting boards go on. Who is fitting floor? Who is fitting skirting boards?

The biggies for us - get a firm quote for electrics - inc sockets / internet points/ switches (and whether they're just standard white or chrome etc). Increasing numbers of those can massively increase the budget. Also you'll need smoke alarms now to meet BRs. Are they supplied / fitted?

Things like radiators - builders will quote for bog standard radiators. We wanted column ones so there was an added cost there. Same with internal doors / ironmongery. Quotes with usually include bottom of the range/ standard fittings so allow for upgrading. Windows - white was standard, we wanted grey finish.

Kitchen fitting - make sure you understand whether the quote includes electrics/ plumbing / fitting for kitchen.

Bathrooms if applicable - the quote will assume usually you'll supply sanitary ware but will include plumbing. Does it include tiling / extractor fans etc.

Other extras - skip hire / portaloo hire / drive or garden.

AbbyMCMLXXX · 26/11/2018 11:49

I've been In the property trade for 20+ years and I wouldn't even know where to start with this question.

Your best bet is to get someone round who either a) has building experience, or b) is a good judge of character.

Outside of tgat you're asking a far too ambiguous question for a forum, even a building one. Just prepare as best you can, down to the choice of door handles, and get an iron clad contract.

Also don't change any details half way through.

Good luck...

AbbyMCMLXXX · 26/11/2018 11:51

*by "get someone round" I mean to be with you when you meet the builders.

mummmy2017 · 26/11/2018 11:59

Never know a builder who didn't leave the job half done and not turn up for a week.
20% of fees payable on the day finished... Agree a date.

Hesta54 · 26/11/2018 12:04

Read and understand any quote you get, what are you getting for your money, compare quotes cheapest isn’t always best, Tell them you want a written quote to carry out the whole of the job, labour and materials inc planning permission site welfare, management of the job, disposal of site rubbish to existing regulations, etc
Ask them to detail what is and isn’t included in the price, no extra work to be paid for unless changes made by yourself and approved in writing, ( with price)
Agree who’s going to supply sanitary ware and kitchen, tiles etc,
Check what flooring and doors and skirting boards and architrave and door furniture is or not included,
But most of all make sure the builder gets the job signed off by building control with all correct certification inc gas and electrics before final payment, hold a certain amount back for 6 months to cover for any defects that might need doing,
There is more, but as I said at the start check what you are getting for your money, to many builders try to get away with, “that’s not in the quote, that’s extra )

Hesta54 · 26/11/2018 12:11

Forgot to add unless you want the builders around for ever , agree a start date and length of contract, if necessary a penalty clause for over running works, but if you change things ( biggest earner for builders ) you will have to agree extension on the time

BubblesBuddy · 26/11/2018 14:08

You need a wiring plan, a heating plan and full details of what you want to get a serous quote. The architect should advise. You need far more details than the plans that go for pp. you need working drawings. If the floor needs levelling, that needs including. What about skirtings, door frames, layers of lighting, window specifications, drainage, roof tiles, doors, bricks and even foundations? You need far more input from the architect before you can get a quote.

BubblesBuddy · 26/11/2018 14:09

Don’t sit back and accept any old doors etc from a builder. Specify what you want via the architect.

Loopy9 · 26/11/2018 19:08

Thank you, this is a great feedback.

My architect is just providing the drawings not any further detail as to specification of windows and door requirements.

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IssuesWithTheTree · 26/11/2018 20:52

I had a builder who turned up when he said he would, stayed within budget, was clean and tidy and finished on time. He was recommended by someone who was very particular picky and I viewed his work whilst he was mid-build.

Are they VAT registered?
How will you make payments?

The way my builder worked it, was he wasn't VAT registered because he earned under the threshold. The way he did this was he quoted me for the entire job but I paid for everything and everyone separately so the only money going through the builder was his day rate.

He ordered the supplies from the builder's merchants, passed the phone over to me and I paid.

Every Friday he would write me an invoice that had his day rate on x 5 plus any labourer costs, he had a skilled labourer and an apprentice labourer but only 1 at a time. I then transferred that money straight into his bank account.

I paid the plasterer, plumber, kitchen fitter, electrician, doors and windows person, roofer etc all directly and when added up came to the value of the original quote.

I had plans but also my own drawings showing lighting, sockets, light switches, fused spurs. Don't forget sockets for integrated items such as dishwasher, fridge freezer, microwave, oven etc all usually behind cabinets or inside cabinets.

I bought the kitchen from Ikea, and sourced all sockets/light switches, fire retardant downlighters, sink, hot water tap, worktop, everything. I had a pinterest board with everything on it.

Good luck.

SelitaCharlie · 25/09/2023 16:47

Sounds like a dream! Who was your builder and how can I contact him?

bouncydog · 25/09/2023 19:17

Also ask them for proof of their liability insurance in case they cause damage to your property! We don’t allow anyone to do work for us without evidence of a current certificate (paid off when a decorator tipped varnish on a brand new Amtico floor through negligence! We recovered the £4K cost from his insurers)!

PreferQuietlife · 27/09/2023 20:38

If you're in the NW @issueswiththetree any chance you could PM me your builder's contact?

IssuesWithTheTree · 27/09/2023 21:18

@SelitaCharlie just so you are aware you need to @ someone for it to alert the person I only saw this because @PreferQuietlife did it.

Sadly he no longer builds has moved on career wise as he was doing it since he was 16 so 30 years of being outside in all weathers. Also I am not in the NW, other side of the Pennines!

There are good builders, we found him through word of mouth and visited his build site which can tell you a lot about a builder. It was tidy, even the skip was organised so they could fit lots into it rather than just things thrown in. Local facebook might be a good place to start, or workplace, or playground, people will tell you good ones and the ones to avoid.

My builder's system I think is the right way to do it. No massive paying up front. And yes he was insured.

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