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Structural movement in property

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InThrees · 23/09/2018 20:02

Hi there

We're attempting to purchase a Victorian (built circa 1900) mid-terraced house in a popular area. Our mortgage lender carried our their valuation survey which highlighted movement (no detail given) and that, if we wanted to proceed, we'd have to provide them with a more detailed structural survey at our expense. We did so and our surveyor has indeed noted movement.

The following notes were given (I've removed some of his more general points):

“There has been some structural movement to the front left hand corner of the dwelling. There has been some similar movement to the front right corner of the adjoining terraced house to the left. The front section of the party wall separating number ?? and number ?? has dropped slightly. This has led to the brickwork, stone heads and stone sills to the front elevation of the subject property sloping downwards slightly towards the left.

The rate of slope is around 10/1000mm and only the left hand part of the front elevation of the subject property is affected. This is consistent with differential settlement. The minor differential movement to the front left corner of this house appears longstanding. It is of a relatively minor nature. There are no obvious signs of significant recent movement and the risk of further significant movement is thought to be low. No structural repairs are considered necessary. The extent of movement which has occurred is insufficient to cause any structural concern.”

We were put at ease at this but, after speaking with him and friends etc, we've been told to proceed with caution. We have also been advised that 10/1000mm slope is significant. In a nutshell we've been warned of resale issues where other buyers might have major concerns about any evidence of movement (irrespective of an option that it is historic and long-standing), not to mention lenders and building insurers.

Upon receipt of this report the mortgage has been approved. We’ve also been offered buildings insurance through a broker who didn’t seem the least bit concerned given that subsidence hasn’t been mentioned and movement is likely long-standing. I did, however, get the feeling I was talking to a salesman (which I was) who was quite eager to fix me up with a policy - I will have a careful read of the documents before proceeding. We will also be speaking to the neighbours to see if they can reveal anything (the movement does affect their property after all).

I've uploaded photos of the property here: postimg.cc/gallery/x1w2khji/

It sounds like a risky buy but we're reluctant to walk away due to difficulties in finding property at the right price in this area. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

Many thanks.

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wowfudge · 23/09/2018 20:15

It's longstanding. It wouldn't bother me and doesn't bother your mortgage company. If there's no evidence of continuing movement I would go ahead. No older house is ever completely square and level.

babyboyHarrison · 24/09/2018 10:48

Difficult to tell from the photos, is the movement just on the front where the double bat window is? Bay windows often didn't have the same foundations as the main house so cracks to bays are pretty common. Movement probably happened decades ago and has long finished. Don't think it would bother me but if you are worried get a builder to quote for repairs and then at least you know how much it would be even if you don't bother to get the work done.

wowfudge · 24/09/2018 12:12

The movement is to the side of the front door where it meets next door - you can see it dips down.

wowfudge · 24/09/2018 12:13

And it's classed as minor. It's nothing to worry about.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 24/09/2018 14:41

I'd be more concerned why the brickwork appears to have pushed out compared to the neighbours at the window side. Did the report address that at all? It looks like the neighbours have had some work done on their side - it would be good knowing what and why.

InThrees · 24/09/2018 15:39

Thanks all. The movement near the window is relatively benign, it’s the sloping towards next door, as pointed out by wowfudge, that is the cause for concern. I think it’s more about perception in that it could put off future buyers when we come to sell, even though it is described as long-standing historic.

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