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Help - man has come to fit the floor and it can't be done

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fruitstick · 20/08/2018 12:50

We ordered beautiful Karndean flooring for our hall, kitchen and living room. However he's taken up the old floor to find stone tiles underneath. Apparently he can't put a damp proof membrane over the top of these so they will have to be dug up and replaced with concrete.

We can't afford to do this, not have the time or inclination (it would involve finding a builder and a lot of mess he says).

Our other options are
laminate
ceramic tiles

Help! I want to cry.

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ThePricklySheep · 20/08/2018 12:51

Could you use the stone tiles that were underneath?

JoJoSM2 · 20/08/2018 12:52

What about restoring the stone tiles underneath? It sounds like you’ve uncovered a gem!

PattiStanger · 20/08/2018 12:56

No advice sorry but I've been thinking about Kardean flooring, is it not possible to find this out during the quote stage? Hope you can find a solution

fruitstick · 20/08/2018 12:57

The problem is there was an extension - so the stone tiles are only on half of the floor.

What the original builders (not ours) should have done is take them all up and then just pour one concrete floor but obviously they decided to cut some corners and whack some cheap laminate over the top.

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fruitstick · 20/08/2018 12:57

They knew the tiles were there at the quote stage so I'm quite cross!

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CloudCaptain · 20/08/2018 13:01

Screed over the tiles? Or plywood over. You will have a step or ramp though.

Bobbybobbins · 20/08/2018 13:04

If they knew they were there then this is their fault - they should have advised it wouldn't be suitable. I would prob go for a really good quality laminate but ceramic tiles also nice. I wouldn't have the tiles dug out.

user1471530109 · 20/08/2018 13:07

I've had karndean before and you have to have it on a completely flat surface. So most have a levelling screed laid first.

I would have thought anyone fitting this as their living would have known this and taken it into account when quoting you Hmm.

Is this a karndean fitter?

Haint · 20/08/2018 13:09

If it’s an old house ( which it pens is as you say stone tiles) I’d be very wary of putting in a DPM. Impermeability and old buildings do not mix well

fruitstick · 20/08/2018 13:09

Yes he's a Karndean fitter. They quoted for the screed but he's saying the screed can't go over these tiles. I'm going to get a second opinion I think.

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fruitstick · 20/08/2018 13:10

I think we may go for tiles in the hallway/downstairs loo and laminate in the kitchen/lounge

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fruitstick · 20/08/2018 13:10

haint it's 1920s

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Glovepuppet1 · 20/08/2018 17:19

You mentioned the stone tiles were beneath another floorcovering that has been removed? What was the other flooring? I'm not making excuses for the fitter, but could he have checked? And indeed, were you aware of what was under the old flooring?

catsbeensickagain · 20/08/2018 17:51

Avoid the DPM! We had one put down in our 30's semi for a fireplace - the house sprouted damp overnight! So while it is annoying (and a bit crap) this guy sounds like he ha talking sense. We have tiles in our new place and love them.

fruitstick · 21/08/2018 10:59

Well the tile man has been and has said they will have the same problem.

Basically the old stone tiles are non-porous, which means any levelling screed etc won't be able to sit on top.

Looks like our only options are laminate or carpet. Or dig them up.

I really don't want carpet and laminate will look shit compared to the Karndean in the kitchen/lounge.

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vegascouple · 21/08/2018 15:45

We've had this problem, we took the tiles up, think quarry tiles, indestructible even with a hugeeeee breaker!
When they finally come up the floor was so uneven! we just boarded over ready for the screed base, it was very messy but as we was totally renovating and not living in the house it wasn't a major issue as such!
Still a pita though!

fruitstick · 21/08/2018 15:49

Hmm - I think that's what we'll have to do - although I can't get a builder to answer the phone for love nor money!

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