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Home Insurance error

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Sprottish · 17/08/2018 18:24

2 months ago I returned from a weeks holiday to my kitchen flooded, it was established it was caused by a faulty valve in the bathroom sink above the kitchen. A plumber came out, fixed the problem, and the home insurance company at this point were great and confirmed I would be able to claim. There was a lot of damage to one half of the kitchen so it was definitely worth the £450 excess.

The kitchen had to be dried out for several weeks so the insurance appointed contractors to come and do this who again were great. They got big dehumidifiers and spent weeks drying the kitchen out, and ended up having to chip off half of the plaster back to bare brick in order to dry it out properly. It was frustrating waiting to see what the insurance company would offer to rectify and I did chase it up but appreciate I had to wait until the property was dry.

I was initially infuriated that when the insurance company said they would only replace the damaged items in the kitchen (half of the units, all the worktops, several cupboards) and match it as best they could but after some research I learnt this was pretty standard unfortunately, without matching items cover. With this being said, I saw it pretty pointless at ripping the whole kitchen out, only to put half of it back and replace the other half, so I asked for a cash settlement figure.

The communication with the insurance has been really poor from start to finish, I never got any response to phone calls or emails until I escalated it and formed a complaint that no one was telling me what was happening. I ended up speaking to the building contractors directly (who, incidentally, broke my clock and my bin in the work but that’s another story!). Eventually a cash settlement figure came through in writing along with a scope of works (over email) stating “the cash settlement is £4696.48 less your £450 excess = £4246.48. Once you have had the works completed we will on receipt of your contractors invoice be able to pay you £939.28 VAT”

I thought great, I have a cash figure, I can see what I can do with this to see if it would be worth my while replacing the kitchen myself rather than watch them take it apart carefully only to put it back on. I sent 4 emails after this with several queries, including photos of damaged units which weren’t included in the scope of works I had been sent, and chasing it up several times. Meanwhile, I have been attending kitchen design fittings, booked a plasterer and kitchen fitter, got several quotes for kitchens, all the while waiting for the insurance company to respond in relation to the additional damaged units which hadn’t been accounted for.

In the meantime, the building contractors have emailed me saying it will be a cash settlement of £2945.68. I queried this directly with the building company to which they replied again and said the figure was actually £3174.28 as it had been increased. Confused, I simply asked for them to return my key and compensate for the damage caused (they were also appalling but again, another issue.)

Having still heard nothing from the insurance company, I emailed for the 5th time this tome entitling the email COMPLAINT. I explained that once again my personal claims manager hadn’t gotten back to me. I asked 3 very direct questions about reimbursement for the drying equipment electricity, again about the damaged units not counted, and finally why the building contractors had quoted me a totally different cash payout.

I then get a response at 16:55 on a Friday afternoon (today) from the insurance company stating

“I have now received the revised scope of works from ** and like the one I previously sent you this includes work completed by them for which they have now provided their costs and this needs to be deducted from the cash settlement you were previously offered. The cash settlement you would actually receive is £3174.28. Please accept my apology for providing you with an incorrect figure previously.”

So I now assume that the contractors work already done had not been deducted from the initial cash settlement of £4246.48 + VAT. However, on the day I received this figure, I made a phone call to the insurance and specially asked “will I need to pay the contractors for the work they have already done” to which he replied “no, it’s for the scope of works to be completed from now” as I specifically wasn’t sure what was included.

Naturally as soon as I call them, there is no answer and the line just rings out. Am I within my rights to push for them to honour their original cash settlement, which I have got in writing and have been budgeting towards while waiting confirmation for the further damage?

Apologies for the long post, any help would be greatly appreciated. I’m a 27 year old girl funding her own house single handedly and this will just ruin me if the settlement is nearly £2k less! It’s been such a frustrating time and this has just got me over the edge! Any advice?

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mrs2468 · 17/08/2018 18:36

Sorry I don't think I get where the 2k is coming from. In my experience insurance companies will do anything to get out of paying. You need to make a formal complaint detailing everything. Find out the complaints procedure and go with that as a starter. Then take them to their ombudsman if not to your satisfaction . I'm also not sure if it was a cash settlement why they had to wait for an invoice and not just give you the cash from the start or you to instruct the work yourself.

Sprottish · 17/08/2018 18:55

Thank you for your response! Sorry it’s not exactly £2k but I’ve been working with £5100 in mind (£4246 + £939 VAT) and now they are saying £3174. I think they would pay the extra £939 VAT once an invoice was received to basically show that I wasn’t doing a cash in hand job.

I’m going to draft up a complain tonight to email over, but this will be the third complaint I have made! Just keen to know if I have grounds to get the initial money offered (my whole weekend is kitchen fitting and designing appointments which will feel pretty futile now with not knowing what I’m getting!) I certainly couldn’t afford to rip the whole kitchen out and start again with the new apparent settlement figure.

Thanks again for your reply Smile

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mrs2468 · 17/08/2018 19:00

I still don't think i get it but I'm maybe being daft. Good luck insurance companies are awful! Took me months to get resolution for mine

GreenTulips · 17/08/2018 19:02

I think you are thinking about this the wrong way.

Let them pay for the drying out type works

Get a kitchen fitter to quote for the kitchen that needs replacing and give you a separate quotes for the remaining works

This way they know the insurance company will pay X amount and will do you a deal on Y amount.

Otherwise you are going to be short changed

Recent example - replace carpet via insurance - quite £900
Private quote £470

Huge difference - these companies know insurance will pay full whack

Have a think about it and speak to your kitchen fitter

Sprottish · 18/08/2018 09:26

The issue isn’t really to do with the work, it’s the fact that the insurance told me the cash settlement was nearly £5000 but made a mistake and now it’s only £3000. Can they do that when I have the initial quote in writing?

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GreenTulips · 18/08/2018 09:38

Yes they can adjust their offer as you clearly haven't accepted it

You don't seem to know if the settlement included paying the original contractoe or not - this seems to be the difference.

You need them to put the offer in writing and be clear about what their covers

Sprottish · 18/08/2018 09:58

I did call the insurance specifically on the day of the initial offer and asked them whether that included paying the contractors which he categorically said “no” to - I logged the time and length of this phone call so I hope that will help.

Thanks for all your help with this - it’s just so frustrating as I would have accepted the cash settlement had the insurance company got back to me sooner with the queries.

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