help me with the kitchen-diner layout (floor plan attached)

[mum2015]

Cant choose between these two layouts. The garden is where sofas are.
Ideally would have liked an L shape with dining table in the middle but due to size of room and sofas, will have to keep sofas where they are and can switch between dining table and kitchen.

What are the rough dimensions of the space? Do you have another sitting room elsewhere in the house? I think the kitchen is compromised by having two large sofas in there.

I prefer picture 1 with the kitchen to the left and would have a more open kitchen design with an island to maximise use of the space. The dining table would then go near the doors to the garden with seating in the smaller area where the kitchen is shown in picture 2.

First one. The spaces are better defined.

We have separate lounge as well but would like to keep two sofas viewing garden as we spend a lot of time in this room. At the beginning I was thinking of one sofa and barstools on peninsula/island but then realized dining chairs/stools are not as comfortable.
Room is 6.7m (22feet) wide garden facing wall and 6.2m (20 feet) long.

I think I prefer the second one, I don't like the sofa butted up to the kitchen units in the first. However the second gives the cook no opportunity to look at the garden at at all.

I have to say I'd prefer your original plan and sacrifice the second sofa. With a communal space you want people to be able to communicate easily between the areas. A sofa backing up to a kitchen peninsula kind of does the opposite, as does a U shaped kitchen facing away from dining table and sofas.

The first layout with one sofa and comfortable bar stools. You can get ones with backs. It all looks a bit squashed and compromised with the two large sofas.

I have a slight preference for the second one. But could you add a peninsula unit so the cook gets an opportunity to look towards the sofas / windows when preparing food?

There's always waaaay more than just two options. Go get it designed professionally. You will end up living with this for a long time and it's a big investment .

Problem is all layouts i see usually have only one sofa, a dining table and then all the remaining space is filled with largest kitchen island that can fit.
How do you entertain when say you have 4 adults and 4 kids as guest? Where do you and guests sit down to have a chat? The seperate lounge isnt big enough either...

Any suggestions?

Can you get your preferred layout if you buy different sofas? Or armchairs and a sofa so that they can be moved around more easily?

Alternatively, do you really use the separate lounge as a lounge much? Or could you put the dining table in there, and have a bigger lounge area in the kitchen with just a small table for breakfast/or breakfast bar with stools?

No one entertains adults and wants the kids there too! Send them to the living room with a dvd!

I'd definitely have bar stool on an island or peninsula. Could you have an l-shape sofa, or two small ones at right angles to each other?

Don't spend tens of thousands on an extension designed around a sofa costing a fraction that....

If you really want the two sofas, how about layout 2 but swapping around the sofas and dining table?

Put the sofas in a L shape, with one sofa against the far left wall. The way they are facing each other in the two layouts, blocking off the dining table or kitchen, doesn’t seem like a sociable arrangement to me.

I typed an earlier message which seems to have gone astray but basically saying the same as @titchy. Why are you planning a lovely big extension and fab new kitchen around 2 sofas? It doesn't make sense.

I would have your kitchen along the right hand side where you have one of your sofas, an island unit where your coffee table is with stools and then a large L shaped sofa or sofa / armchair combo where you have the dining table and cupboards in design 2. I'd have a table & chairs where you have the kitchen in design 2.

what's going on here?

Extension?? I am guessing the extra bit is the kitchen in the second plan option??

I don't think either lay out works tbh with the sitting room in the corner, that's where I'd want the kitchen

I would switch the sofas for a couple of arm chairs to create more room or a sofa and a pair of chairs.

I really should be sorting out mine - but could this be another option? Think this is possibly how namechanged suggested.

We have an l shaped kitchen / diner / sitting and have the kitchen in the middle bit. Anything else would have been a compromise. Make sure you put seating at your island as despite having sofas, everyone always congregates there.

Yes @bobkate, exactly like that!

I've amended it a little....

OP I think the idea is you are more fluid in a bigger room. All 8 of you don't troop to the living area and all sit down together. then all 8 hang out at the kitchen/bar stools when you cook, then all 8 go to the table... Ok you might all sit down together to eat! But then after, some might be at the table playing game, others on the sofa, someone else making the coffee. Think of it more as one room, not as 3. It feels spacious because everyone's got elbow room.

Another idea is an island going left to right along the middle of the top half, changing to dining table height on the right hand side, as if the dining table is butting up to the short side of the island. But then the sofas would have to go in the bottom corner. I'd do a big L shaped one so it feels more generous, and flexible for squeezing extra people onto. It would be better really to have the island going down the right with dining area in the bottom corner, but I'm not sure if you have the width across the bottom corner. What's that, 2.8m ish?

I like bobkate's idea. If space is a bit tight for the table, you can always have built in seating along the wall, with storage under then you don't have to worry about having room to pull chairs out on both sides.

I'd swap the sofa and dining table. I'd bring the kitchen out further in line with the wall. I'd have a raised breakfast bar so that when you're sat down so that you don't see the clutter in the kitchen plus a couple of stools.

(A large l shape sofa filling the corner.

The first one. The second one has the kitchen exposed to the seating area. Our current layout is similar in that we have a table where your sofas are and it is SHITE sitting down to a meal and seeing the dirty/untidy kitchen countertops full of pots, pans and all the ingredients. I have to tidy up countertops before I serve dinner which is a major pita.

I wouldn’t buy a house with the kitchen next to the patio door leading to a garden like BobKate suggests. Sorry, I think that’s completely offputting