Kitchen planning blindness

[bobkate]

Attached are some pics of what I have at the moment, plan wise. We are a bit limited by existing doors/chimney breast/where the drains are.
Can anyone see a better way of laying things out than this?

Drains are directly outside the wall that has the sink/dishwasher run. Unfortunately they are too high for the sink to be relocated elsewhere, such as on the island. I had wanted a small prep sink there to prevent the walk across. ( However, I had to do the walk across in the kitchen's previous existence and in 8 years, with 2 small babies, then toddlers and 2 dogs we never had a spillage accident )
The back wall of units would be floor to almost ceiling - tall freezer and fridge, 2 x 400mm larders and 2 side by side ovens.

I have got pinterest/instagram overload ( and envy at the simple, straight shaped rooms ).

If anyone can spot anything glaringly obvious that would make it an improved layout, can you please help!!!

Thanks.

I love a kitchen planning thread but I'm afraid I'm finding your pics hard to follow.

Oh no!! I'll try to annotate them a little better to try to explain the plan a bit better.

So along the back wall it would be a little like this layout...
Then the hob on the island and the sink and dishwasher on the other wall to the right of the picture.
The island would have 3 sets of 800mm pan drawers, 2 below on the hob side, one facing the dishwasher. Also a 300 spice pull out thing either side of the hob drawers.

Along the sink run will be our spare undercounter fridge with drawers/cupboards either side and a couple of wall units on top. Though this could be the tea making spot.

Wasn't really sure how to utilise the chimney breast as to put the hob in there would be too far from the sink I thought, so thought we'd just tart it up a bit, like the photo. WIth maybe a dresser unit to the left hand side of the chimney breast.

Can you just not see the photos very clearly or is there something else I've missed totally!

The bits towards the rear patio doors are sofa/tv/dining table, etc.

Not sure if the pink writing shows up v well. Basically the top right of the plan is the entrance to the kitchen, showing the last section of the hall and downstairs loo.

Sorry, have just read that all back. So confusing! Can't think of how else to do it!

Have a sliding barn door added the extra room by the door is brilliant.
Oh and the new pull down shelfs in IKEA.. Mean you can go floor to ceiling on space.

Turn the island round 90 degrees and have a play with things. Consider making it L shaped or curved - you've a lot of space so you can make full use of it.

On the back wall where the ovens, fridge and freezer are, consider having tall storage cupboards only and look and resiting those appliances - especially the ovens. I wouldn't split the fridge and freezer up - side by side would be better.

What's on the wall opposite the sink? I can't work it out. I'd look at using that wall.

Have a think about how you carry out tasks. With any layout, how would go about making a hot drink with milk in it and how far will need to travel around the kitchen to do that. Preparing a meal - getting food out of the cupboards and fridge and freezer. If you are cross crossing the room it becomes a pain.

Also you aren't allowing enough space for the dining table and chairs. Ideally you want 1.2m for chairs to be pulled out and for them to be walked around when someone is sitting in them. Think about having a fixed bench (with storage in the seats) along the wall instead of chairs - it saves space if you don't want the dining area to just out further into the room.

My first thought was you have nowhere close to put stuff on when you take things out of the oven, 1.6m is a long way with a hot pan.

wowfudge the wall opposite the sink has a chimney breast sticking out. I have jigged about, moving the ovens to the sink run, but then the fridge/freezer wouldn't fit and would be a long way away, either on the back wall or the chimney wall.
Or having a tall row of cupboards on the back - then the ovens and fridge and freezer either side of the chimney but then they would be even further from the sink.
I think, although it's a big space, it's really awkward. Mainly with the constriction of leaving the sink/dishwasher where it is.
It's literally hurting my pea brain.
WRT to the dining table we'd normally only use one side on a day to day basis with the chairs tucked in. Should we have people round it can be moved over, sofa position adjusted, etc. I likethe storage bench idea though.
yorkshiretea86 again - that's another thing that I can't get my head round. I just can't see a better solution!

Wow opposite the sink run, to the left of the chimney, I had just shoved a narrow cupboard as possibly shelving/dresser type thing.

Why don't you work with a designer to get their input too. It doesn't have to be one linked to a shop. There's freelance Concept planners who do this all the time so what seems tricky to you will be easy to them

In hindsight I wish we had gone with that humpty but we are running out of time. I stupidly thought it would become obvious but it appears not!
I am such a bad decision maker when it comes to this sort of stuff. I do endless research, but can't quite come to a choice.

Don't rush an expensive investment that you need to live with for a long time!

Ah thanks for the extra info, I've got it now. I think it's basically sound, but as wowfudge says it looks like there should be more somehow. I do think it would be worth getting someone to give it some design wow factor. It could take "something" on the island - a big arc, or the island angled at 45 degrees like clock hands at 10 to 4. Or an L shape, or at least turned. I don't know. Maybe the gap's a bit big between island and wall units so it looks a bit lost somehow? Or maybe it would be fine in practice. But PPs are right that the work surface is a long walk from the ovens.

I'm jealous, it's a lot of space.

Though on a deadline, perhaps "big" ideas are not helpful, especially badly formed !

You need @oneplanonhouzz OP.

wowfudge I have been in touch with her a while back. We're going to have a look at the DIY showrooms tomorrow. If we can save enough on units then I'm more likely to be able to persuade DH to fork out £££ on her services!!

Istilldrinkcava thanks as well. I think I'm so worried about not making it 'wow' as it's such a big space that I can't see the wood for the trees. Hey ho - we'll get there I suppose!