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Home Extension Thread 2018 - summer edition

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DustandRubble · 08/06/2018 20:24

A thread to share the highs and lows of all things extension, loft conversion, renovation related. Bring your own dustpan and brush.

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tentative3 · 31/08/2018 18:28

Ouch. We'd be looking at full refurb too, small 4 bed (which would turn into 3 beds) then the potential double height extension to form garage/utility downstairs plus master suite upstairs. Would need to do something at the front, not a full extension but some kind of porch or something, existing one is hideous. Driveway.

Bit worried now. But thanks so much for the detailed info, better that we go in with our eyes open.

PostNotInHaste · 31/08/2018 20:42

Hi, i’ve been fleetingly on a previous thread as we started at end of 2016, then everything went on hold at just below plate level. Finally started phase 2 this week and it’s all got quite exciting as it’s coming to life again.

We’re doing a 2 storey extension and redoing downstairs as have new drive access so making the bit of the house that now faces the road the front, instead of previous entrance which was the side. Will give us extra hallway, utility room with shower, bigger reception which is DS’s room, relocated living room, bit more landing and new bedroom with ensuite for us upstairs. In addition outside we’re creating new parking area and will be able to incorporate old drive way into the back garden which wraps around the house.

We’ve got nowhere near the budget to do the whole thing but should have inside ready for decoration by Christmas if all goes well. No sink in utility as can’t afford that but washing machine and shower already there. There’s no budget for decorating or flooring but have bought have bought some curtains for the new French doors for £60 and am planning to make blinds from some fabric I have - trying to get in touch with my inner womble and reuse everything I can.

Successes this week are he got scaffolding quote down found 2 lintels previous builder left and got new steel in without demolishing bathroom wall as expected so we’re not having to go down to utility shower as expected. Suggested that these savings could turn into a contingency plan as inevitably things will go wrong. There’s an issue with the structural engineers drawings where she has drawn in a steel resting on what is actually air outside and not a wall but builder hopefully has solution he will suggest ie. put steel in at an angle which though unorthodox will hopefully work.

We’re lucky as made kitchen Diner about 12 years ago and has a still current Howdens kitchen in plus wood flooring which needs a bit of replacement and floor sand but will be fine with that plus paint. It’s not affected by any of the current work and has 2 sofas plus a table squeezed in so we are very comfortable, helped by DD recently having gone to University-useful as we’re moving into her bedroom for a bit soon! DS has taken to climbing out of window and in through old front door as easier than pushing past builders but not easy at 6 ft 1! Just built a barrier in what was old shower room in attempt to prevent dog falling through hole in the floor, hoping the cats don’t do anything stupid.

Threesocks · 02/09/2018 20:26

Hi all - hope all your projects are progressing well. We are now living upstairs while the refurb and extension are going on downstairs. Builder is confident the internals will be done by end Nov- we shall see!!
Wall are up and most excitingly we have just ordered our new kitchen!!

Igletpiglet · 03/09/2018 08:09

Hallo!
We are a month into our first build project- tear down old garage and utility and pimp it into 2 storey living space below with master and another bedroom & 2 en suite above.
Then big remodelling of existing house to put new kitchen inthere and rejig Hall and stairs.
Safe to say might be on a few of these!
The builder said we’dbe Having xmas dinner in our new kitchen! Am not holding breath.

4yearsnosleep · 03/09/2018 08:36

Lots of new people with exciting sounding projects!

I'm chatting to another builder Thursday as I'm not convinced that our builder wants to do our project. He's not been in touch at all since he announced the delay. This guy had a reasonable, detailed quote and has been recommended by several friends, but there's a few changes and parameters that have changed

MyNameIsJane · 03/09/2018 19:42

2 days before the statutory expiry date for planning and we have had a phone call from planning Dept who would like to visit to take pictures to the rear of the property. Confused

bobkate · 03/09/2018 21:03

Hi everyone, new projects and on going projects. 4years..I think meeting a new builder sounds a good step. I think I'd be having wobbles about the previous builder if I was in your shoes.
Things going well here too. Minor annoyances, such as no room for a shower in the loft now. Quite why the architects drew one Confused but we've squeezed in the teeniest loo and sink so I think that's better than nothing.
Trying to find nice fire doors. Found some unglazed, but I cannot find any nice glazed ones that don't cost a bomb. Stuck on door handles too, not that we're anywhere near that stage.
It does seem to be slow going at the mo. Although we're starting to see some plaster board going up.
Chosen the kitchen, not ordered yet. Trying to find a nice quartz worktop but failing miserably Sad.
I like our builders a lot.....but will be glad when they're gone!
Myname..... god, that would make me panic. Fancy leaving it til 2 days before the deadline. Do you have any idea what they might be querying?

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 04/09/2018 22:20

Delighted to hear about people's good progress. Two days into the build here, Christmas deadline. Eeek!
About to start pulling out what we'll need for the temp kitchen in the living room and boxing up or getting rid of the rest.
I'm browsing The Big Yellow box shop now, any Dos & Don'ts for me please?
All I can think of is basically getting rid of most dry goods/tins in the larder asap and not buying too big boxes - plates and pots are heavy!

BirdyandBee · 05/09/2018 00:32

Hi everyone!

We’re about to start our extension next week hopefully! It’s been a year in the making and I’ve been avidly reading these threads since.

We bought our house for more space (2nd dc) and moved my grandmother (Nanny) in as well to help her out.

We are converting the garage and extending out the back, knocking down the conservatory that’s there and making it into a proper useable room. So a wrap around extension.
The garage and rear extension inline with it will provide Nanny with a bedroom, shower room, little utility room (for me!) and living room for her.
The rear extension that’s the width of the house will provide extra room for all of us and the kids.

We’re just sorting out the final part of the Party wall (neighbours wanted a surveyor) so hopefully we’ll actually be able to start next week.

This has taken so much of my energy and time so far I’m flipping between so glad to finally have got this far to be absolutely petrified I’m spending nearly 100k of Nanny’s money 😲

Has anyone kept progress pictures or blogged or instgrammed their extension. I can’t find much out there?

Whattodowithaminute · 06/09/2018 06:43

Welcome newbies, good to see some progress from others. Hope you get on ok with the new builder 4years sounds like the right plan. To be honest I think we should have done the same rather than ploddding along so slowly with our current one.
Anyway-plastering should start next week, roofing should start next week, one final steel to go in and final bits of stud work downstairs to be done by the end of the month. A lot of progress is just around the corner... fingers crossed...

Cazzaa10 · 06/09/2018 21:48

Hi everyone. I hope you don’t mind me joining so late in the year. I have just come across this today and have been reading through the posts as much as I can throughout the day (my sons swimming lesson I spent reading through rather than watching him Blush). We are currently planning a two storey extension, plans are with the council and we should have our answer by 9th October. We have had 3 quotes from builders, two are more than we wanted to spend and one is reasonable and he has come recommended by a friend who had an extension built. Just wanted to say hi and I will update when we have our decision 😊

2B1Gmum · 07/09/2018 12:26

another newbie here, had a brief read through and discovered many have had similar issues with awkward neighbours and appeals for planning etc. We are now 5 weeks into our project, it took us 18 months, one appeal and two resubmissions to get permission for a kitchen extension that is smaller than the last 8 approved in our road! Whole system is barking mad.. but that is too long a story. Very pleased with our building/project management company who have stuck with us and done all the handwork - although we did have to pay for the appeal that everyone thought was 98% certain to get through and didn't. Both neighbours been a little difficult, one side believe that the more your pay the better the person, so insisted they choose at Party Wall company miles away and £500 more than the quote we had already had - but the law states they have the right to do that and we have to pay; the other neighbour chose the materials for our walls, the distance he would be happy for it to be from our fence etc. and then objected, he objected a second time but then agreed after I got some more detailed measurements to him - to the nearest mm including the roof tile thickness. Joke being we are now not sure those tiles will work with the angle of the roof... also one of the measurements he wanted was from a small garden wall that is completely wonky. He also argued with the Party Wall surveyor, insisted on a second award letter (costing us another £250) and was very awkward about the date for the survey, delaying our build yet again. When the builders started he posted a letter through the door detailing our planning permission and asking that I regularly check that the builders understood, to the nearest mm! The letter ended with a mild threat about knocking down a building that in anyway differed in measurement to that which was approved. We are not idiots and nor is the building company - but the reality is bricks can't always be cut to the nearest mm and the wall he wants the measurement taken from varies by 4 cm! The Building Inspector has visited twice and is happy with the work, she says our builder is very good at his job - she has come across his previous projects. The walls are going up as I type, I am convinced my neighbour is going to put a ruler over the fence anytime now! He will go the council if he finds the measurement is even 1cm out. I won't relax or sleep properly until the build is finished, signed off by the Building Inspector and all others overseeing it. I have even looked up the neighbours rights and it appears he can only really expect the council to follow up if we have done him harm... I really hope 1 cm isn't harm. The wall in question is over 2 metres from his property and hidden by his climbing plants for most of the length. I really don't understand his obsession, we have been neighbours for years and we always consulted him before doing work, including the loft that he insisted we make changes to that under Party Wall and we did. I knew the dust and noise wouldn't be fun and that costs would no doubt go up with unforeseen issues, second manhole needed etc. but that is nothing compared with the stress and upset my PITA neighbour is causing.

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 07/09/2018 13:41

2B1Gmum that's shit, I really feel for you.
For us on one side neighbours are golden, other side slightly anxious/annoying, but pales in comparison.

BirdyandBee · 07/09/2018 17:35

@2b1gmum he’s obviously got too much time on his hands. I think that’s a neighbour relationship that needs to be lost after your building work is done!
Well done for getting through all of it!

Whattodowithaminute · 07/09/2018 20:45

2b1gmum sounds like you’re having a rough time with neighbours. I can empathise, all of the most stressful bits, lost nights sleep etc have been due to our neighbours and it’s really taking the excitement out of the build. I don’t even really want to live in this house any more... it’s hard, feel free to vent here as required!

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 07/09/2018 21:10

it’s really taking the excitement out of the build
That makes me sad to hear Whattodowithaminute.

Igletpiglet · 08/09/2018 00:12

Oh god.
We have 2 sets of plans.
One drawn by architect.
One redrawn by us. Because - our version gives separate seating space, kitchen directly onto garden and also good sunset watching, and gained separate sitting room and office.
Building started with our version.
Now walls are up- i’m
Not sure anymore. Tweaking the original basic might give more practical living space in kitchen diner and I have worked out a way for separate office and seating. We lose kitchen onto garden and sunset watching.
HELP!
This is still at the stage where we could decide to switch plans.
Shall I post some plans?

Whattodowithaminute · 08/09/2018 09:17

Post the plans igletpiglet! (Also I don’t think there is always a right solution and it’s really normal to wobble over the decisions).
Van I know it is sad, I’m hoping that once we’ve sorted out this next bit of negotiation around boundary and roof then we shouldn’t have too much more to discuss with them. It’s been hostile from the beginning because ultimately they don’t want us to build. I understand it’s hard for them and have been as accommodating as possible but that won’t stop us completing the works. I get really anxious every time we have an interaction, can’t sleep before and after and then it settles again... should be all done by Christmas at least-nearly on the home straight.

2B1Gmum · 08/09/2018 10:51

Whattodowithaminute, I know what you mean, I does make you feel like moving. If/When I when the big one on the premium bonds that is exactly what I will do. In the meantime I have to try and feel sorry for him, as many of you point out, he clearly has too much time on his hands - actually he was a lawyer now working locally on a wind down to retirement type job and he clearly misses telling people what to do and using legal language to do so. Next spring, budget permitting we will be erecting a large pergola, for which we don't require planning permission or his permission, we aren't doing it to annoy him but because we are in the lucky position of having a sunny garden and it will provide some shade for dining BUT the rules allow us to build it 2.5 metres high and right next to his fence.. whereas our build is 2.4 metres 800mm from his fence, lovely recycled and cleaned London Stock, but he doesn't have any vision. Later, budget permitting again, we will replace the shed we had to loose with a almost full garden width studio/shed which can also be built 2.5 metres near to the boundary and does not require planning permission. Again not to annoy him but because with three children late teens to early twenties having this as their base between Uni and first jobs, it will be a lovely space for all to escape/gym/yoga or just quietly read a book. His reaction to both the pergola and the studio will be interesting. Van, I keep walking round our extension and wondering whether we should have removed bits and changed bits, and there is a steel that will show on one wall we weren't expecting, it is hard to really visualise how it will all look with furniture in - I can't decide which side to put the dining table for example, and that impacts on whether and where a tv goes (I don't really want one, but am outnumbered). Builders working today, the first and only Saturday they are likely to, water was off for an hour and I had to show a plumber round the house in my dressing gown Blush. Good luck with the boundary issues and the neighbours.

Ironically neither of our neighbours served Party Wall on us and both should have done.... the neighbour on other (since moved) someone runs his own very successful building company that specialises in extensions, but he built 50 cm longer and 50 cm higher than permission, he had to knock down the roof and lower it! He moved to a large expensive detached on the back of the money he makes doing other people's extensions (not physically, he employs gangs of labourers to do the work), his linkedin profile says he is a director and a surveyor - he has no surveying qualifications, he lies, he cheats and he ignores planning. Very glad that he moved, new owners on that side are such an improvement. Makes so much difference.

BirdyandBee · 10/09/2018 08:20

It’s starting!!!
This is how I left my house this morning- we’re doing a full wraparound extension

Home Extension Thread 2018 - summer edition
Whattodowithaminute · 10/09/2018 11:57

Good luck birdy!

BirdyandBee · 11/09/2018 00:35

The back has gone! Really got a good feel for the size of the extension. Onwards and upwards!

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4yearsnosleep · 11/09/2018 01:21

Exciting @BirdyandBee

I'm definitely on the hunt for a new builder. I checked in with our builder to confirm we were good to start at the beginning of October...... he said it would be 'at least the new year' how long is a bloody bit of string!?!

Whattodowithaminute · 11/09/2018 06:53

That’s hard and frustrating 4years did any of your other potential builder come back with any more availability or options?

4yearsnosleep · 11/09/2018 07:38

I need to run through the project with one builder. He'd provided a rough quote to give me an idea without a site visit, so Now needs to run through it. He's highly recommended by a friend & another friend who works in commercial construction was recommended him by 3 tradesmen and also has another friend who he's currently doing work for. I think even if he can't start til Jan, we'll go with him because the other guy has lost my trust.

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