Fences inside the garden?

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I live on a corner plot that has nosey neighbours, and I really want to build a big fuck off fence (on two sides we have a nice big hedge). We've also had the garden broken into a few times because of the boundary wall with the neighbours but it's about 50m long and I can't a) afford and b) be bothered to replace the whole thing so my plan is to effectively line the wall with a 2m fence with trellis.
I've looked at the planning permission that is really clear on boundary walls but I'm wondering if I was to build an internal courtyard with higher fences (it's a massive garden so loads of room) that's well away from the boundary wall would that still have the 2m limit, or would that come under the pergola rules that let you go higher? I'm absolutely desperate for some privacy - at the moment if I go out my back door I'm in full view of my neighbours cctv. I'm also planning a planting offensive but that will take time to bed in.

A diagram would help to understand what the set up is. Your neighbour's CCTV should be trained on their own property only. Have you tried talking to them about it? Do you know it is definitely picking you up in your own garden?

When you say you've had the garden broken in to, do you mean things have been stolen from the garden?

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to properly understand.

Sounds fine but yes, a diagram please! From what you describe it doesn't sound like there should be any planning issues or restrictions on heights but maybe a call to your local planning department would set your mind at ease.

I'm about to develop a new part of my garden which will have rustic trellis fencing which I will train climbers up, is that the kind of thing you're thinking of?

The CCTV overlooking your property is not legal, it should only monitor their own land.

Sorry where does it sat about cctv? Of there us then police can look to.make sure iy is only being used for their property

You need to plant loads of things like holly and pyracantha, the little **s won’t be climbing over that! Plus loads of berries for birds and nesting opportunities

Apols for quality, I'm on mobile. The green bits are hedge, the black line is the boundary wall, the red line is where I would propose to put extra fencing which we're planning to be a patio area outside the kitchen, the orange is where their cctv covers. I know because they picked up someone breaking into our cars on the drive which is that area so I saw the footage and I know exactly where it covers . Im not about to have a go at them about the cctv but I'd rather not have what I'm up to in my garden picked up on it.

Love the plan

We're on a corner plot and have a normal size fence but then a thick hedge. We also have a stilted hedge out of hollies. I don't think there are restrictions on how high you go with that. Hollies are prickly and can grow pretty dense so would make it a lot more difficult for a burglar than a fence with trellis + look lovely. A pic to illustrate what I'm talking about.

And off topic, with these burglaries and people breaking into your cars, have you considered moving to a safer area? It sounds horrendous.

I would invest in my own CCTV and get next door to adjust theirs. I'd look at gating the drive if it isn't already and I'd do what JoJo suggests and put high, prickly planting in to screen and act as a deterrent. Berberis and pyracantha are also suitable. Privacy and security and important so invest in them.

Because of the position of my house and theirs they can't really move it, and I don't mind it so much being on the drive, I just don't want them picking up me sitting out on my patio. We have gates on the drive, but they're old, rubbish, not secure and in a weird place. Planning to replace with big wooden gates and our own cctv, security lights etc (dh would also like to include pressure plate ink bombs which somehow be knows how to rig so if anyone tries to break in they'll end up bright blue!). Both dh and I have just got new jobs with a big bump in pay so there's a bit of a shopping list for essential household jobs that I've got on the go.

Oh I've also been advised that callery pear trees are a good shout for screening so I've got a row of those planned for the short side of the triangle!

a hedge will take time to grow, but you could arrange a tall wire frame for climbing plants such as sweet peas, runner beans, hops or convulvulous to scramble up and form a fast screen. The horizontal wires, if you are generous, will form an obstacle to an intruder.

I have grape vines which probably grow ten feet sideways in a season. They leave no winter barrier after pruning, though

You can get mature hedging - ours came at 2m tall for the hedge and the hollies were 3.5-4m but it did cost a pretty penny.

I kind of don't want much more in the way of hedges - I currently have about 200m of hedge to keep up with as it is, don't want any more to prune!!
I'm thinking of doing the courtyard out of trellis type stuff and growing things like clematis up the inside so it's pretty, also I'll take advantage of where the sunlight hits.