2 Pane Bifold Door - WIth a traffic door?

[MillStone]

Please does anyone have ... or know a company that manufacturers a 2 panel bifold where one door is an easy access traffic door?

I've been advised that you cant get a traffic door on 2 pane systems (the 2 doors only slide together) ... but I want to check around just in case.

Cheers

I can't see how that would even work? How small is the gap?

What’s the point getting a bifold door with a traffic door? Defeats the purpose

Wouldn't French doors be the solution? Cheaper too.

Or sliding doors they do nice onesnow. Bifolds make no sense

@ Baxdream
The gap's apx 1650, so too small for a 3 pane bifold... I don't know if it's mechanically possible to have a 2 pane door with one also acting as a traffic ...

A Greendale
!? FYI: www.duration.co.uk/FoldingSlidingDoors-TrafficDoors.asp

@Wowfudge
Due to a quirky layout constraint they're not a viable option, otherwise I would go down this route. Like you said cheaper ... and possibly less to go wrong(?)

@Baxdream
Yeah sliding is an option but I want the full aperture / opening that you get from a fully open bifold (or french)

I don't know what the layout issue you have is, but could you have non-moving/opening glass side panels with a door in the middle instead then?

You want a slide and pivot door system. I have them from ‘panoramic doors’. Google them and see what you think.
I have posted on another thread on here my experiences of panoramic doors ltd. so whilst I’ve had issues with their customer services the doors themselves are fab. Other companies offer the same product, so do your research. But what you want is out there

@WidowTwonky

Thank you, yes this is brilliant.

My parents have exactly this. Two fairly wide glass panel doors - you can just open the left one like a normal door, or they can both fold back fully against the right hand wall.

They are not pivot doors though I don't think. Will try to find out where they came from. They are timber frame, is that what you want?

@minipie

Thanks that would be very helpful. What you describe is what I'm after - albeit working in the opposite direction.

I want Al because it'll sit better with my windows.

Hmm in that case I don't know if their supplier would work. The way the doors work is quite simple though and I'm sure could be replicated in AI. The handle is on the left of the lefthand door. For a traffic door you open it outwards like a normal door, along a hinge with the right hand door. For full opening you keep opening that door further (180 degrees) so it folds fully flat against the right hand door, then you unlock the right hand door and that opens along its right hand hinge with the doorframe. The two doors therefore move together 90 degrees to fold against the garden wall. Hope that makes some sort of sense...

It does mean you have to have a flush fittingg handle on the outside so the left door can fold fully back against the right door

@millstone,@millstone,@millstone,@millstone,@millstone,im, doing some research for my own patio doors. Just wondering if you found 2panel slide and pivot doors? We wer thinking bi-fold but think this system would be much better for us