Family of 5 - do we NEED 2 showers?

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Or just two loos?

We definitely need two loos. We currently have one upstairs bathroom with a decent enough shower. We're in the process of getting Builders to put in a downstairs loo and shower room but tbh I think I would prefer to have it as a downstairs loo with space for the washer and dryer. It's an existing room (old pantry) so there's only room for a 760 x 800 shower. There is not enough room for loo, shower and appliances. Washer and dryer are currently in the utility which is an old scullery that we intend to convert into a 'garden room' (it's at the very back of the house beyond the kitchen) and it would be much more convenient to have the washer dryer in the pantry/intended downstairs loo as it's more central in the house and I am using them several times a day. If we get them out of the old scullery it will make redesigning that easier as we won't have to fit them in.

Kids are currently small but my feeling is compared to the number of occasions two people will want to shower at the same time (and we need to check pressure will be good enough to handle that) is miniscule compared to the number of times we're doing laundry. DH primarily wants the downstairs shower so he can shower around 10pm twice a week after training without waking the kids but tbh using the upstairs bathroom doesn't wake them anyway.

So I'm wondering if there's anything I'm missing before I try to persuade him to use the intended shower space for appliances. As long as there's a decent sink, loo, mirror and shaving point etc in there, is a second shower REALLY worth it?

Sorry this was unnecessarily long for a post about showers!

Family of 5 here, we have shower room in our loft with toilet and sink, serves main bedroom and DC3 bedroom. Have two showers in there because it is a massive shower, one runs off hot water tank, the other is electric, so can always shower even if no hot water in tank. Family bathroom on first floor also has electric shower over P-shaped bath, plus shower from taps that runs off hot water tank. Serves DC1 and DC2, plus spare room. Utility on ground floor has washing machine, drying racks and extra sink (useful for handwashing, emergency toothbrushing if bathrooms in use). Works very well! Arrived at this after a lot of planning/renovation work. Four showers may be excessive, but means if we've heated hot water we use it, before switching to electric water heating (more expensive).

If your small bedroom is miles away from the stack, then don't put a toilet in there, then you can get away with a 50mm waste pipe instead of a 110mm toilet sized one. Then there's a good chance you can fit it between the joists until you get somewhere you can drop it downstairs. It also helps if you have timber ground floors as they can run under there.

That room would make a gorgeous bathroom!!

We are a family of 5. We have two showers, 1 bath and an extra WC. I think we have 1 shower less than we need, but at least there are plenty of loos to go round so it works. I’d definitely go fo the extra shower in your case