Do you think we could do something with this floorplan .........

[Mjs0510]

We thinking of putting an offer in on a house but would want to change the layout upstairs to make a master suite with dressing room and ensuite with bath / double sinks large shower etc by losing one of the bedrooms and maybe the second en suite as there is a large family bathroom and also another en suite on the top floor

Anybody any ideas they'd like to share to give it a nice flow as I'm not seeing it at the moment

whatsthecoming - your plan is more or less what I was trying to suggest, I think it works well.

Could move the door back on Bed 4 to make access to the bathroom from the hallway, if you wanted to keep a full bathroom accessible without going through a bedroom

Not to scale, but I'd do this. Large master bedroom with sofa area overlooking balcony, completely opened to the adjacent room. Walk through the 2 (green) wardrobes to get to the bathroom, with freestanding bath also looking out onto balcony (I assume you're not overlooked!!) and his and hers sinks. Frosted glass sliding door leads into a separate WC and large walk in shower (orange area-pinched a bit of the landing). Total luxury

Before making big interior changes, consider how you use your bedroom. Does it really need to be enormous if you don't really spend time in there other than in bed? I understand wanting a spacious feel, but it might be that having it too big is just a poor use of space.

If you have a dressing room with all the wardrobe space in there, the bedroom doesn't need space for much furniture.

That's also why I suggested building onto the balcony. I would love a balcony but I do wonder how much use it would get given it is far from refreshments etc. Being off bedrooms doesn't make it family space. Of course, this may not be an issue for how you'd use the space.

oooooh I like what @whatsthecomingoverthehill has done!!!

Oh and I like @Angryosaurus too - except I would have the dressing/bathroom sep from bedroom by a door so one of you can get dressed with the light on whilst the other is in bed (like early mornings if one goes to work earlier etc)

Oh and I like @Angryosaurus too - except I would have the dressing/bathroom sep from bedroom by a door so one of you can get dressed with the light on whilst the other is in bed (like early mornings if one goes to work earlier etc)

The first thing I’d look at is reversing the staircase.

You’re losing a lot of space in the master bedroom due to the “down” being on that side.

If you switched it you’d regain that whole “square” of landing (which is as big as the ensuite) plus the area which serves as the entrance to the master bed.

If you look at that space there is plenty of room for a bigger ensuite and dressing room.

You’d have to move the door (but it would actually be in a better location). If you did this you’d still keep the other bedrooms and structurally it’s less invasive.

If you can build over the balcony I woudl prefer this one with a Juliette balcony doors at the end.

I really like have 2 doors between the en suite and bed, and I like the dressing room to be separate from the bedroom. This is the best layout for two people getting up / going to bed at different times.

Before even considering changing the layout.......is the house listed/in a conservation area?! No matter how many options you have that might work you need to find out from local architect/planning dept if any of these would actually be “allowed” x

Looks like a fairly new build to me - everything is “square” (unlike my house ). So doubt it’s listed.

Equally if the changes are internal you wouldn’t need planning consent even in a conservation area.

I wouldn't want to do anything that interferes with the natural light onto the landing.

The style these days are for large master bedroom suites, with a big bedroom to allow for a seating area etc. This seems to be more valued than having an extra bedroom. The problem with going into bedroom 2 is that at the moment it seems like the 2nd best room and the other ones are relatively small. It would be nice to be able to get a bit more space in one of the other rooms if possible, which is why I tweaked bedroom 3 to get rid of the built in wardrobes, and hoped that you could do something in the boiler room/main bathroom area to give storage.

I suspect that the balcony is an add on to the footprint of the house, without a room below. If there is a room underneath then it would give other options.

OP, in terms of the loft conversion, they often don't need planning (do check if that's the case here though!) But they absolutely do need building regulations.

Could maybe do something like this to better use the space in the bathroom/dressing room area.

Just with a toilet too!!

If you switched it you’d regain that whole “square” of landing

I don't think you would as the Up part is going to the attic floor isn't it?

You'd still have two "entrances"to the stair case regardless of which is up and which is down. Or have I misunderstood? (Entirely likely!)

whatsthecomingoverthehil - love both of your suggestions and yours Angryosaurus.

SilverSpot - We can't build over the balcony otherwise your plan would've been another contender.

Also it's got beautiful countryside views to take advantage of although your probably right how often will we get a chance to.

DarthMaiden - Not sure we can reverse the stairs

The house is about 5 / 6 yrs old and not in a conservation area, we've got the EA checking out the planning / build regs as on the original planning permission for the house the loft rooms were shown as storage areas with no shower room along with the annex over the garage which also has a bedroom and shower room.

I've attached a couple more photos to share a but more detail

Here’s one showing positioning of the stairs

I think @whatsthecomingoverthehill suggestions are the most sensible, especially if you are thinking of potential resale value. I'd still go with my idea if you want to maximise the enjoyment YOU get out of your home, but appreciate you may be spending money that you won't get back.

Glad you liked it Mjs. I think Olena's right that you'd probably want to keep a family bathroom rather than making it an ensuite.

It looks lovely! I like spending other people's money.

Couple of thoughts on why I still like the Right hand side master suite option..

1. Could you put a balcony on the RHS as well to match the LHS? Not sure what this would look over, but from your photo, it doesn't look like it would be too expensive to construct something which would then be a private balcony just to the master suite, but still leaving bedrooms 2 and 3 with a 'wow' factor of having a balcony.
2. A door to the dressing area is a good idea IMHO. Often, I get up before my partner and so it's handy to be able to choose clothes and get changed somewhere where I can turn the light on but without disturbing anyone left sleeping!
3. A master en-suite simply has to have a shower for my money.
4. As others have pointed out, if you have a large dressing area and en-suite - do you actually need that large a bedroom? Without the clutter of wardrobes or dressing tables, it will feel much more spacious.
5. I'm presuming the cupboard with the circle is an airing cupboard? If so, it would be very simple to move the HWC into the dressing area if you wanted more room since it's only a short run to modify the pipework.
6. You end up with 3 very balance bedrooms in size with 3 very sensibly sized en-suites.
7. It's very cost effective since beroom's 2 and 3 remain entirely unchanged. You're only modifying bits of the house that you actually need/want to update.

Just my $0.02 worth of course. Looks like a lovely house either way :)

parkview094 - All valid points, although I'm looking at ways to take some doors out rather than add them in. The door to the dressing room in our current house never gets used so we would probably keep it open plan.

Unfortunately we can't mirror the balcony on the RHS as it has a conservatory underneath. But that would have been a good idea. We haven't given up on the RHS option as I think it would give better use of space for bed 4 - as a bedroom you can fit in a double bed and nothing more. We would still enlarge the en suite to the current master as the room layout at the moment is disjointed. But hubby would like to keep the balcony for the master suite.

If we were to leave master where it is we would still make bed 3 bigger use the current en suite for bed 2 as a walk in wardrobe for bed 3 and have the family bathroom as a jack n Jill for beds 3 & 4.

Definitely to the shower in the master en suite - we have a big double shower currently and also a bath (which is used more than the family bath) so wouldn't want any less in the new house.

The master would be very large and like you say maybe too big - but I think we'd still have to have some wardrobes and probably the dressing table in the bedroom. We need (to stop having our clothes dotted around differently bedrooms) 3 doubles each and I'm not sure that many would fit into the dressing room if we kept the master on the LHS.

We are definitely looking to make the bedrooms more even sized. At the moment my daughter is having the 2 attic rooms. We are looking at the huge master and my DS is currently ending up with a box room! So we do need to do something for him also.

The cupboard does have the water tank in but also all the piping for the underfloor heating and something the do with the air source heating so it's pretty much the only thing which can't be moved. It can be made a little smaller but probably not enough to warrant messing around with.

It would be nice to keep the costs down but we would be updating all the en suites / bathrooms anyway so I'm looking at this as extra cost is just the stud walling.

The house is in a beautiful setting on the edge of a lovely village overlooking countryside. It was only built a few years ago, but was built for the older couple who designed it and live in it currently and don't use half the rooms. We're normally new build people who wouldn't dream of taking this on but when its updated and think it could be an amazing space.