Creating an ensuite bathroom in spare bedroom?

[Fortunatepiggy]

We have a 3 bed semi. traditional layout family bathroom at top of stairs 2 double bedrooms and a box room. We also have a downstairs bathroom

My parents live far away and come and stay fairly frequently and will do this more now ds has started school. Long term I would like to have a loft conversion and dh and I move up there but in the meantime I want to try and make the layout work better. I would love to put a small ensuite in the spare room so that it's self contained and parents have privacy. They are of the age where they have to get up frequently in the night to use the loo and I know this worries my dm ( doesn't bother us but she thinks it wakes everyone and won't be told!)

So the space in the bedroom would be 170 x 130. Is this big enough to fit in loo sink and small shower unit? If not we could borrow space from the family bathroom which is right next door and needs redoing anyway. The wall between spare room and family bathroom isn't load bearing and could easily come down. I'm thinking as it's next door it would be easy to extend all the services and waste pipes. Our current family bathroom has a bath loo and large sink but I don't think makes the best use of space. Will try and attach diagram later

Any advice / experience of doing this welcomed

How much did yours cost callmedoctor?

We had it done along with some other work so difficult to cost. Pipework would probably be the only difficult thing to cost depending on how far you have to go to connect a soil pipe. Otherwise it was a days joinery to knock up the wall, another day to plaster. Plumber for maybe a day (or two) to plumb in fixtures. Tiler couple of days. Minor electrics for light and antimist mirror. Look at adding electric or plumbed in towel rail. I will try and take a pic :-)

En suite corner shower room.

Do you think it would be more odd to get to the top of the stairs and access a bathroom through a bedroom or to have 2 doors on a bathroom?

Current family bathroom has access from landing at top of stairs and thinking of blocking up and accessing from spare room to make ensuite or keeping that entrance and making Sep entrance from bedroom so has 2 doors

Going to move Bath to other side of toilet get small sink where bath is and put door in from spare bedroom on wall where bath currently is

Or

Just build new room inside bedroom with toilet and sink.

I'm conscious of what previous poster said about cramming too much into bedroom as I think it might be too small with full new ensuite

Suppose could replace double bed with pull out double sofa bed to give more room

I think the best option is to replace bath in family bathroom with shower ( but on other side) have one access point from spare room and then have lots more room. Then have new bath upstairs in new loft conversion but can't afford this yet and can't do without a bath for a year!

If you think you are going to be able to do loft in 12 months time I think you should do what is right for the house longer term - or is cheapest to alter retrospectively.

How many nights are your DP going to stay?

The issue is that they think they are disturbing you when they're not...

Yes I know random and they won't disturb us at all when we are in loft conversion but we just can't afford 50k at the mo

Plumber said moving bath to other side of room not a big job so that's good

Just put an extra door to existing bathroom from the spare room. Easy to block back in at a later date which I'd suggest. Spend your money on a nice bathroom suite etc.

PIL have a bathroom with a door to their bedroom and a door to the hall. We lived with them for 2 years and it was absolutely fine. You get used to locking and unlocking both doors. If your parents aren't living there full time then I think it would be a great option. It's not that an unusual set up, I've seen it in a couple of houses.

Door from landing and bedroom becoming more common now. I hated the idea of it, but actually it's really useful now! The bathroom isn't that big but we still have bath, separate decent sized shower and toilet/sink so definitely worth speaking to your plumber about what's doable. If you're saving for loft conversion and need to rip out your family bathroom first anyway it seems daft to spend money on a bedroom ensuite when you could use the money towards the family bathroom.

Just food for thought on space saving. A friend of my parents wanted to create an en suite with very little space so installed of one these instead of a separate sink and toilet. I think it's brilliant, but I am easily pleased.

It will cost tons of money to put in that ensuite anyway. It'll be tiny and frustrating to use. If your parents become less mobile, they won't be able to use it as there won't be space for supports/seat in the minuscule shower etc. The bedroom will be smaller. I'd just put the money towards the loft and not bodge the house in the meantime.

Putting a door in the bedroom to allow them access from there sounds a good idea but don't close up the existing one.

I stayed in a B&B recently which had that layout. The bathroom was accessed from my bedroom so.it was en suite and the door going out into the hall was kept locked by the owner so it couldn't be used for access. Worked great

Definitely Jack and Jill style. Even if your parents keep it locked and you use the downstairs one while they are staying. You can't leave a bathroom only accessible to one room with the other room occupants having to use a different floor for the bathroom, that would be crazy.

Ok going to do jack and jill. Work starting next week! Any ideas on layout. Here is current thinking

Door to spare room can only really go in far left wall as entrance to spare room is on far right of all and will look weird if have 2 doors next to each other don't you think ?

Current bathroom pics below bath now removed to fix leak . On right is a wall with a window and towel rail

Plumber is ripping everything out anyway so no prob on plumbing.. can have anything anywhere although I think toilet needs to stay in similar location for soil stack

Pls help me! Need to make decisions by Monday!

I would put two doors in the current bathroom so its like a jack n jill bathroom you have between two bedrooms. Lock the door from the landing when they are staying, and lock the one into the bedroom when they aren't.

From your pics, I would try and move the door into the bedroom down a bit to put the sink next to the toilet and free up the corner where the sink is to put a desperate shower in if budget allows. Just thinking that for your parents, a standalone shower would be easier than an over bath one as they get older?

We have two doors close together off our bedroom and it's fine. The door to the bathroom is narrower than standard though.