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Slide and hide doors for utility room

28 replies

FacelikeaBagofHammers · 17/07/2017 13:52

Does such a thing exist for a wall of tall storage units?

The presses are going to be in a corridor area between the kitchen door and back door, and being able to hide the doors away might be really handy.

I likely wont' have a huge budget, but would such a thing exist on the high street?

Thanks

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PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 14:12

are you in the UK? What are the walls made of?

Pocket doors are more common in the US where construction methods are different. It is unlikely to be possible in a Scottish home unless you build the walls to suit.

FacelikeaBagofHammers · 17/07/2017 14:15

I'm not talking about doors into the room, but the doors that belong to the presses! I'm sure they'd just slide into a small gap between the wall and the storage unit. But if there was a convenient (cheap) system that already exists, it'd be handy, thanks.

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PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 14:15

you could get sliding doors easily enough, though. You have wheels that run along a rail fixed to the ceiling, and a rail fixed to the floor. They will not disappear but you usually have them to overlap.
They do make a noise.

FacelikeaBagofHammers · 17/07/2017 14:16

Just to clarify, the doors would have to pivot 90degrees before being stored along side the press itself. Hope that makes sense!

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PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 14:18

this sort of thing

there used to be a fashion for mirrored wardrobe doors.

They are usually large so are heavy. For a wardrobe, one metre wide doors are common, but for cupboards, I think 600mm might be better.

PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 14:21

In that case, I think not.

You can have a look at the Blum and Hafele websites, or email them, they make curious fittings for cabinets (pivoting shelves that go up and down, hinges for doors that fold upwards, rotating corner shelves) but I don't recall seeing what you want.

They are usually sized for kitchen units, but some fit wardrobes.

TheSpottedZebra · 17/07/2017 14:23

I think you need 'pivoting pocket doors' eg www.hafele.com/us/en/info/residential/cabinet-and-furniture-sliding/pivoting-pocket-doors/7274/

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PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 14:43

thanks zebra

on the UK site it seems to be www.hafele.co.uk/INTERSHOP/web/WFS/Haefele-HUK-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/ViewParametricSearch-SimpleOfferSearch?SearchType=all&SearchTerm=Accuride+1321

It's uncommon, so I think you would need an above-average fitter or chippy. But maybe the instructions lead you through it.

Can't find a price.

If you can't find a supplier, ask Hafele or www.bkservicesonline.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=page&id=20

Intransige · 17/07/2017 14:43

I've seen concertina cupboard doors used for that kind of situation.

PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 14:56

thanks frog

price looks very reasonable

I suppose the stuff in the cupboard would have to be stored neatly to prevent it blocking the door, and I think you couldn't have shelves or baskets unless you fabricated supports for them.

TheSpottedZebra · 17/07/2017 15:21

OP I had pivoting pocket doors installed by by a good joiner, in London.
He said it wasn't standard but was entirely possible. The lead time for the hardware was slightly longer than more usual builds, and he was very specific as to the permissible weight of the doors themselves.

I no longer live in that house so can't take pics, but we were very happy with them. No idea why they aren't (yet?) more popular. We basically kitted out a long thin hallway with storage cupboards.

wowfudge · 17/07/2017 15:49

Have you tried looking for horizontal tambour doors? That would be a neat solution. You can buy office furniture, such as tall cupboards, with horizontal tambour doors which could work for your space.

PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 15:50

"pocket door" usually means a sliding door that goes sideways into a hollow wall with no hinge or pivot. Common in US, very rare here due to construction practices.

TheSpottedZebra · 17/07/2017 16:01

John why are you policing this thread? Most odd.
Yes, a pocket door slides into a pocket. A pivoting pocket door pivots first, then slides into the pocket.

PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 16:54

I don't think I'm policing. I'm commenting that the terminology is not what I'm used to.

The Hafele UK website seems to call it "Pivot Sliding Door Runners, for Cabinet Doors" but the Hafele US site seems to call it "Pivoting Pocket Doors "

As a UK person, the term "pocket door" suggests something different to me, and I have hardly ever seen them here. In this country, I think I have only seen them in anterooms at the National Gallery, where they slide behind oak panelling.

Potato, potatato.

PotPlantAddict · 17/07/2017 16:56

I really wanted the system that TheSpottedZebra linked to but was talked out of it by my kitchen fitter as it would have meant losing a chunk of cabinet space for the doors to recess into.

If this isn't a problem then I the hafele doors are great, a local carpenter should be able to fix you something up easy enough.

PotPlantAddict · 17/07/2017 16:56

Apologies for the terrible lack of punctuation in my post Blush

FrogFairy · 17/07/2017 17:07

I would visualise the cabinet with two end panels at each side.

An inner carcass with a gap then an outer side panel so the door would retract between these two panels and shelves or drawers could be fitted in the main part of the cabinet.

PigletJohn · 17/07/2017 17:19

yes, that would be neat and should avoid the door crashing into things.

Large projecting handles might be a prob, unless the end of the door sticks out.

didireallysaythat · 17/07/2017 19:34

We have this - hafele hinged doors that slide into the wall space. Not off the high street, we bought the hinges from an ironmongers and fitted them with a carpenter who provided the internal cupboard and the attention to detail that DH and I don't have but do appreciate.

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Slide and hide doors for utility room
FacelikeaBagofHammers · 18/07/2017 12:39

They look neat didireally

We actually will have 'normal' pocket doors to the utility, it will slide into a custom made pocket in the wall. Mainly to stop that door banging when the back door is open. The cupboards I'm thinking of are between that pocket door and the back door, just trying to have a practical space - so the presses can be open without blocking the passageway. It's not even that wide tbh, probably only 1.5m. I'd probably need 2 * 700m doors, but then I wonder will the space be deep enough to take them. Hmmm

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NotMeNoNo · 18/07/2017 13:42

I think you can do it with the Hafele "pocket door system" cabinet fittings. Basically you steal a few centimeters inside each side of your cupboard to make the "slot" your door slips into. Like you used to get on TV cabinets. If you want shelves, you can build a false side to the cupboards so it's literally a slot.

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NotMeNoNo · 18/07/2017 13:44

better picture

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