So it's all kicked off here over a fence

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I did start a thread about three weeks ago re. my neighbour at the back lifting her fence panels and helping herself to our garden. Trimming back our trees and shouting and screaming at us while standing in our garden.

We decided we were going to erect a fence in our garden, inside of her open trellis fence as we wanted privacy and to obviously prevent her accessing our land. The fence is half up, contractor gone home for the day, and she has appeared on the doorstep shouting and bawling. She is claiming the fence is on her land and she has the legal right to take it down. We looked at the deeds before the fence was erected and could see that her fence was off the boundary line into our garden. So actually should be about 3 inches more into her garden, so she is clearly not right and DP is going to have to go round there later with the deeds. BUT it has made me 🙄 that this could easily spiral into solicitors and court cases and I'm very keen to not go down that road. I have s feeling she is going to get someone to remove the fence and thus cause us to have to sue her. Whereas I feel calmer if she instructs solicitors to get us to remove the fence as we can then represent ourselves in court and hopefully avoid thousands of pounds of costs.

Grrr I hate this shit and I see it all the time on TV and think these people are idiots.

It's criminal damage.
I've been watching this she's obviously nuts !
You did the right thing calling them,
She will just keep pushing.

If I'd paid for a fence and some bozo was ripping it down I'd be ringing them too. I've had youth kick mine down, I rang them. Same difference !

It's obvious your being the adult , unfortunately some adults need the law.
I've a neighbour that constantly causes trouble. But few doors up but verbal attacks with awful language to my 10 & 9 yr old. I'll be ringing them soon, last argument was because my cat was fighting with another cat, I apologised thinking it was their cat but they had no clue who's it was , because the fight was outside their house! FFS! It's a cat

OP, a powerful, motion-activated sprinkler...

Humane not that she bloody deserves such and effective 'garden pest' deterrent.

Enough said.

^ Seriously, though, you have my sympathies.

What a way to return your consideration. Unreasonable doesn't even begin to describe her behaviour.

If you always wanted to be on TV nows your chance .... Nightmare Neighbours!

Seriously tho. This is awful. I really feel for you.

She's mad and unfortunately you can't reason with mad !

Do you have an FE college anywhere near you? Our local one will happily send out students to practise building walls

Don't bill them for the re-concreting unless your insurers advise you to. I know she has caused damage but you risk escalating matters further. If they do initiate proceedings then it's an additional cost to add to the bill on top of the £100 extra already spent.

As others have said, there is no reasoning with crazy. When it comes down to it, her moving the original(?) fence line and allegedly losing garden space is something she can't prove and their own fence has restricted their access to that little strip of land. If what she says is true, she only has herself to blame anyway.

I wouldn't even go around with the deeds. I would copy off the bit you need with a letter stating that the fence is staying and direct her to the deeds and highlight where the boundary is.

When I saw your last thread I felt the reason she had trellis panels was so she could 'imagine' her garden was the length of her's and yours.

I'll be ringing them soon, last argument was because my cat was fighting with another cat, I apologised thinking it was their cat but they had no clue who's it was , because the fight was outside their house! FFS! It's a cat
I hope you gave your cat a very stern talking to Mummy22 and told it where is Acceptable to fight other cats in the future.

@RolfNotRudolf she did! She had time out on her bed
They are crazy my neighbours she started on my 10 year old for bouncing his ball ( outside my house ! ) at 4 in the afternoon, she'd been at work all day and had a headache. I'd understand if it was 10 at night ! Told her to move to a field. Then she'd probably argue with the cows for something to do !

Please buy the sprinkler.

I'm at the local fete and she's here too. We are avoiding each other lol

Call the police and complain of her shouting at you and screaming and being unreasonable (it's harassment, the verbals and even her actions of walking into your land) and how it's making you feel. Although they won't intervene in the problem, they could either have a quiet word with her, or issue her a harassment notice which warns her that if she continues her behaviour, it could lead to a charge of harassment. Although it won't solve the problem, it will work in your favour in any ensuing legal action - although I doubt she would actually bring any. She could actually have mental health issues!

Why on earth is her husband backing her up? People are weird.

Our concrete posts had to set properly for a day before we could put any panels in.
Once we did put panels in, they were so heavy that 2 men had to do it together (getting partly up on a ladder). Because a single person couldn't lift the panel up 6' high.
I'm not getting this thread at all, how does a single person toss the fence panel out? Are these just 4' high fences, not the 6' high fences I'm used to?

The panel she tossed out, I asdumrxwith the help of her adult son, was a half panel that was at the end.

*assume

*and yes it's bloody heavy so fuck knows how we'll going to get it back in.

Breeze block wall. Cheaper than brick. Ugly on her side, can be rendered and be nice on your side.

We can't even get the bloody fence panel back in. I have no idea how she managed to lift it and turf it out! We are going to have to either pay someone professional to come and do it or ask our next door (policeman) neighbour to come and help us. I was talking to him about it yesterday and he said if we need any help with anything just ask.

My secondary concern is that she might kick off again at us when she sees us struggling to get the panel back in. To slot it in from the top we are going to have to try and use step ladders on unlevel ground. I feel really tearful about the whole thing again 😰, which could just be pregnancy hormones I suppose.

If she knows he's a policeman then it might be a good idea to have him there even if he's not much actual use. It might stop her kicking off so much.

Wait until she is definitely in her garden then go ask your friendly copper neighbour if he has 5 minutes to help you with the panel. So that she sees you're not backing down & there's a witness to your panel being placed where it should be. 2 burley blokes up ladders is what it takes to get those panels in/out.

Where I used to live people would nick fence panels, so we used to put little wedges of wood in so they couldn't be pulled out.
I like ragged's idea of asking the copper neighbour to help put in the panel.

I think you need to tell her to get stuffed about the prearranged pruning of your trees - all good-will is now gone and she can just lump it! Stupid bint!