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Which of these things would put you off buying

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MuddyWellyNelly · 26/01/2016 17:51

Thinking of moving. Our house has a lot of positive features including location and significant outside space, stables etc. In a rural situation but still easy access to shops, motorway airport etc. No neighbours. However it's an old house and there were a number of things on our list to do. It does however have a new woodburner, recently fitted oak flooring and a brand new bathroom with underfloor heating. Lots going for it and overall in very good condition even though it's c300 years old.

Windows - c20 year old aluminium. Double glazed but condensation issues. Will cost us £10k to replace.

Garage - had an ugly but useable double garage. We keep both our cars in it. But it's a total eyesore. Options are to leave, demolish or replace, again probably £10k.

Septic tank. Needs replaced. c£5k.

Kitchen is bearable at a cosmetic level, has a smeg hob/oven. Hand painted cupboards but they are quite old and it's a bit tatty.

Most rooms have been re-painted and will do them all if not. Obviously do the major de-clutter, outside tidy up etc. Which of the above big things would put you off buying rather than be just a price negotiation; or which would you not notice if we'd spent the money or not?

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MuddyWellyNelly · 26/01/2016 20:40

Quodlibet we've had the quote so it's completely realistic from a very good window supplier (not the CR Smith type). Would be happy to show the quotes to buyers if it was discussed. It is lovely, we've been swithering about selling for such a long time, but we want to buy our own land. So it's nothing to do with the house itself!

Ok so sounding like the septic tank is maybe a big deal but the rest it's probably best to leave. Been a really useful exercise in clearing my mind on this. :)

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bessiebumptious2 · 26/01/2016 21:07

Yep, I'd replace the septic tank and leave the rest for the new incumbents to decide on. That way, you're addressing the issue that really can't wait as it's likely to cause an issue for them fairly quickly if it needs replacing now (and an issue with this piece of kit is something you really don't want!). The rest are really cosmetic so they can replace as and when they like.

MuddyWellyNelly · 26/01/2016 21:37

Ironically I don't think it causes an issue as such. As far as I can tell it just doesn't drain very well Wink, but it never seems to back up (we have it emptied every so often). But I suspect it's well beyond current regulations. That's a good point about something looking urgent/unsafe etc vs cosmetic, even majorly, like the crap windows. We probably said "we'll do them soon" 8 years ago!

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DustOffYourHighestHopes · 26/01/2016 22:01

Trouble about windows is that often people think they are MORE expensive and more of a hassle to replace than they actually are. We ignored the rubbish windows in our new house because we loved the location so much, but that's not always the case.

RaphaellaTheSpanishWaterDog · 26/01/2016 23:42

Quodlibet, mmmm, I agree. We paid 10k just for seven timber DG windows in 2014 (south west). The kitchen extension windows were on top of this (another 5k) and there were a further eleven windows (top floor and rear elevation) that we didn't do as they were in far better nick.

Nelly We also did new oak flooring first Wink and actually did the new timber DG once we had decided to sell - part of the reason why we limited it to the two lower floors of front elevation was that this made the most noticeable difference. The front ones were rotten as anything and beyond repair and as we'd restored everything else (Georgian, non-listed house), it would have looked bad had we not made the front windows look more inline with the rest! Had we not decided to sell up we'd probably have soldiered on with the old windows and put in secondary glazing.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 26/01/2016 23:49

We bought a house with rotten windows. Twice. It's expensive but mainstream so easy to find a decent local company. You can see it and expect it to be factored in to the price. I liked the choice of timber or uPVC rather than living with new windows I didn't like.
I would get the septic tank sorted. If they're new to rural living then a new tank with some kind of trade guarantee would be reassuring.
Unless the garage is asbestos then screen it and ignore.

PeppaPigStinks · 27/01/2016 06:18

I would try approaching the people you currently rent the land from to see if you could buy it from them?

Heirhelp · 27/01/2016 06:42

Septic tank (just having one), log burner and being in the middle of nowhere. I am not one for isolated country living - I need to be able to walk to civilisation.

I really think it all depends on the individual. I am more concerned about the state of the building ie no sign of damp, cracks which suggest structural issues then cosmetic issues.

MuddyWellyNelly · 27/01/2016 08:58

PeppaPig we have tried. A lot!

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MuddyWellyNelly · 27/01/2016 09:58

For those of you saying not being able to walk to shops would put you off, I think it's fair to say you are not our market Wink. And I'm aghast that the log burner would put you off heir. It's our favourite thing in the world! Luckily, everyone is different and it's a huge plus for many people.

Raphaella i think we have a lot less windows than you Shock. The quote is for all but 3 of ours.

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TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 27/01/2016 11:27

Only the septic tank would put me off as it would be entirely new to me.

Re windows - provided you were open to negotiation on the price I would be fine.

If there was potential to redevelop the garage I'd prefer it was left standing if safe and watertight, rather than risk planning turning down a rebuild/redevelopment. If it's really ugly then for sale purposes it's probably worth ensuring that it looks like it has been maintained and is asbestos free.

Are you proposing to massively downsize? Why not spend the stamp duty money on improving your home?

Is there enough land for you to get planning permission for a second home on the site?

Repaint the kitchen so it looks clean and fresh, I wouldn't replace it just to sell especially in an old property.

Thecatisatwat · 27/01/2016 12:44

Definitely septic tank. Friends are having theirs done at the moment and it sounds like a nightmare. What makes it worse is that you're spending £££ and you can't actually see any physical improvement to the property. As a potential buyer, at least with windows you can see where your money is going.

RingUpRingRingDown · 27/01/2016 13:06

Number one would be the septic tank.

Underfloor heating would be a negative for me too. We have it and it costs a fortune to run and is fairly ineffective. If I knew yours worked well and was more efficient I might feel differently.

Other stuff wouldn't put me off at all.

MuddyWellyNelly · 27/01/2016 17:52

Garage isn't able to be developed, but planning is already in place to replace it so no issues there.

Tread no we aren't downsizing at all, quite the opposite. We could improve our home but it wouldn't sort the missing acreage issue! There could possibly be room for a second house but it's of no interest to us personally, and I'm not sure it would make the existing one more attractive.

Ringup the UFH is only in the bathroom. It's 50cms by 1.5m electric mat on a thermostat. There is also a dual fuel towel rail that is much hotter than we expected and we've barely had to turn on the UFH, so it's not really costing anything to run Wink. However, on the few days we've used it, I absolutely love it.

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