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Length of time to have heating on?

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Bluebell66 · 27/10/2015 07:56

I just wondered if anyone has any thoughts or information on how best to run your heating. Is it better to keep it on low (21C) all the day, or just put it on for a couple of hours as and when you need it, ie morning and evening as I do at the moment. Sometimes the house is so cold, I end up putting it on for longer, or an hour in the middle of the day too. I keep being told by British Gas my bills are higher than the average house my size. However, this could be due to ongoing problems with my boiler (long story, it was installed incorrectly), but I have an engineer coming round on Thursday who is hopefully going to sort the boiler and the radiators out. Hope that makes sense. TIA.

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shushpenfold · 27/10/2015 08:01

I put mine on twice a day and wear a coat when really cold (I'm a mild skinflint but also don't think it's right to leave the heating on all the time) The only thing which I would say though is that 21C is hot!!! If I have the kids in all day I might consider having it on all day and if so, don't tend to put it above 18.5 and 19 if really cold. 21 is steaming and would explain your bills. Reduce the temp and put on a jumper (or two!)

TigerFeat · 27/10/2015 08:02

We have ours set to come on at 19C all the time. We have thermostatic controls on all the radiators so we can regulate rooms independently. ANy rooms that are not used regularly are turned off.

Our bills seem ok.

RingDownRingUp · 27/10/2015 08:16

21 isn't low!

CherriBlossim · 27/10/2015 09:20

I think it depends on your house insulation. We spent a lot insulating our house but this means that no matter how cold it is outside our house never dips down below 18 (and that's with our bedroom window open all year round).

We have the heating on for 2/3 hours in the morning at this time of year and then 4 hours or so in the evening and set the thermostat at 22 or 23. 21 is too low, even in a hot house like this.

Bluebell66 · 27/10/2015 09:37

Thanks for that Cherri, I agree, if I had mine on at 19 I wouldn't even know it was on. Maybe it depends on your boiler etc what temperature you can have it on to get an acceptable level of warmth. I don't like a hot house, just pleasantly warm.

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Bluebell66 · 27/10/2015 09:39

Cherri, would you mind me asking roughly what your winter gas bill is? It's fine if you'd rather not, but I keep being told mine is so much higher than the average for a house like mine, and I use my heating like you do, ie morning and evening.

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dementedpixie · 27/10/2015 09:40

21 isn't low. Our thermostat is ser around 19/20 degrees and is on a few hours in the morning and then a few hours in the evening. Hot water is on 1 hour morning and evening only.

atticusclaw2 · 27/10/2015 09:41

21? Blimey, my house temperature is about 15!

dementedpixie · 27/10/2015 09:41

How long is your water on for

PigletJohn · 27/10/2015 10:10

When you say "better" do you mean cheaper?

I have recently had the stat set to 18.5, which feels OK during the day when you are active, especially if the sun is out, but feels cool in the evening.

It is only a couple of degrees above the external daytime temperature, so uses very little energy.

When (if?) the sun comes out, solar gain through the windows has been raising the indoor temperature anyway.

It is uneconomical to heat the house when it is unoccupied or you are all in bed.

Typically it takes about half an hour for the temperature to rise or fall, after the timer comes on or goes off. Older or badly insulated homes will be different.

If the home is damp, e.g. from wet washing draped around, it will feel colder.

CherriBlossim · 27/10/2015 10:19

Bluebell - we have a smart meter so I've just had a look at this year's bill.

Our total to date (2015) for gas is £467.00.

Our highest month this year was February and the bill then was £102.00.

Last month our highest day cost £2.00.

We've spent £38.00 so far this month on gas.

Smart meter's are great!

IMO it's very cheap especially when you are comparing it to how much it costs to get in a car and drive for a couple of miles! Think about how much it costs to fill a car with fuel.

poocatcherchampion · 27/10/2015 10:27

We have it on 18 for a few hours morning and evening.

21 is boiling imo

Bluebell66 · 27/10/2015 13:23

Thank you Cherri, that's very helpful. I have something to compare it to now. I have a Combi boiler so the water is heated as and when we need it.

I just want to find the most efficient, economical way of keeping the house at a reasonable temperate Piglet.

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Run247 · 27/10/2015 13:30

We set ours to 15 .. And only use it a 2-3 hours per day! 21 is like a sauna!

CremeEggThief · 27/10/2015 13:37

I have mine at 19, but will probably raise it when it's properly cold. I currently have it on for an hour and a half mid-morning, as that's when we get up during holidays and 3 hours 4-7 pm and then a further hour 9-10 pm. Next week will add an hour early morning for when DS gets up for school. Still need a throw over me when watching tv at night on 19, but to be honest, even on summer nights, I need something over me when lying down.

Haribogirl · 27/10/2015 13:42

We have ours on permanently set at 20 day and up to 21 at about 6pm
It comes on at 7am and goes off 10.30pm

I was told it better to keep at constant temp rather than the boiler keep flaring up as that cost me to do that when the temp drops???

We live in 3 bed detached, large rooms.
Our gas/elec is £111 mth. We are £299 in credit so it's now dropped to£97 mth.

Bluebell66 · 27/10/2015 13:48

Thank you Haribo, that's really helpful. Because, as I said, my boiler was installed incorrectly, it possibly needs to run at a higher temperature to get any heat out. Hopefully, that will be sorted out when the boiler installation is corrected.

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RoganJosh · 27/10/2015 13:51

What temperature do your rooms get to?

Bluebell66 · 27/10/2015 13:56

I don't know, but if I have my thermostat set at any less than 21, the radiators don't heat up at all.

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QforCucumber · 27/10/2015 14:13

3 bed detatched, thermostat in front room - wall opposite to radiator. 1 year old combi boiler. Stat is set to 20 degrees.
When we walk in we knock the stat to 'constant' and turn it off at 7:30am when leaving the house, house gets to coldest about 17.5 degrees when we aren't in.
Weekends its on constant all the time, knocks itself off when house hits 20. Which in our house is bloody boiling.
Thermostatic rad valves in each room to control the room temp, and have noticed if they are set to under '3' then they won't kick in at all.
Both out of the house from 7:30am to 5:30pm, Gas bill is £45 a month and puts us in enough credit over summer to cover winter.

PigletJohn · 27/10/2015 16:21

IMO the most efficient way is to have a programmable room stat that allows you to set different temperatures for different times of day and days of the week. It can be connected to replace your existing room stat.

It's not efficient to heat the house fully when you are all in bed; but you want the heat to kick to maintain a modest temperature if a blizzard starts during the night. When the house is empty you only need a low temperature, and most often the heat will not come on because the house will stay warm enough during the day. It will only start up if, again, there is a cold spell, which is better than simply turning it off. It's your choice what this fallback temperature should be.

If you want to extend the evening heating, you use the "party" button to add x hours onto the usual finish time. After that it will revert to normal.

When you are on holiday, you tell it how many days you will be away, and set it to a frost protection temp of, say, 12C. It will use hardly any fuel because many houses hardly ever get that cold, and the boiler will not start unless it does. The day you are due back from holiday it will revert to its usual programme, and get the house ready for you.i

For example, from half an hour before bedtime to half an hour before getting up, you might set it to 16C. That might be 11pm - 7am Mon-Fri and midlight-8am weekends. Then up to 18-20C while you are getting up and dressed, and 12C from 8am - 4pm when everybody is out, but not atr weekends which stay at 18-20C. Then up to 18-20C at 4pm when people start coming home, up again to 20C at 8pm when people are having baths and it's dark so you feel colder. But on Wednesdays when you go to Karate classes it has different times and temperatures, and on Fridays when you do the pub quiz and get home at midnight. You can set any temperature for any time on any day according to your whim.

BTW you will sometimes meet people who tell you that it is more economical to heat the house 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. This is not true.

OnePlanOnHouzz · 27/10/2015 17:39

Wow - I want a gadget like that !! What is the brand please PJ ?!
Ours is in need of replacing - and that sounds just the gadget !! Smile

Ruhrpott · 27/10/2015 18:51

I can tell you that it's a Honeywell cm907. We have just installed them on Pigletjohns advice. Cost just over £70 each from Amazon and hubby fitted them (he is good at electrics though!)

Obs2015 · 27/10/2015 19:08

I don't consider 21 low.
Our is set to 19. It comes on when it's below 19. Thus it could be on 24hours a day, but it's not.

Ruhrpott · 27/10/2015 19:15

From one of these to one of these

Length of time to have heating on?
Length of time to have heating on?