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Pondering house move - help me tidy my thoughts please!

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Chewbecca · 11/10/2015 21:30

Lots of factors involved that I'll try to describe.

The factor that's prompted me to consider moving is that DS started secondary school in Sept & bus journey is taking an hour each way, sometimes longer in the evening, 1hr 45 is record so far. There have been a couple of emergency morning calls to parents when the bus hasn't stopped and they would've been late had they not been rescued. This has been mildly stressful, it's only about 3-4 miles away. I don't want him to cycle, there's no cycle paths, the roads are busy and he carries large bags.

So I started to wonder about moving to within walking distance of school. Saving DS 2 hours a day for the next 7 years seems kind of worthwhile.

There is one beautiful house for sale that is actually backs on to the school and is next door to one of the lesser used entrances. & I can really imagine us living in the house, I like it a lot, really like it. However, I think it is overpriced plus it is priced about £85k more than our current home (worth about £600k) and we don't want to extend the mortgage (DH hopes to retire in 7 years; we are overpaying to try to pay off by this date). It is difficult to work out if the house is overpriced, nothing's sold in the street since last summer and nothing's ever sold for more than £300k, yet this house is on for £685k (though they'll pay stamp duty). However, the other houses are all 30s 3 bed semis but this is a large detached 30s property. Not perfect layout/decor but v nice. It's been on the market for a while and reduced from £700k to £685k to £685k with stamp duty paid so far. DH reckons it is worth less than ours, even though it is larger, the location is much less desirable & it is further from the station. I can't imagine it being reduced by another £100k though?

No other houses are currently on the market within 20-30 mins walk that I like. I will keep my eye on the situation though and wonder if ours should be on the market in case anything comes up. My worry with this plan though is that houses in my road tend to sell quickly & I don't want to sell with nowhere I love to go to!

I'm thinking we could move now with a plan to down-size back to our current area when DS leaves school (uni?) so don't want to make a bad move property wise at this time.

Other smaller factors are whilst we love our current location, I don't love our immediate neighbours on one side, they're very noisy. But there's no guarantees this would be solved on moving! Who knows what other problems we'd be introducing!

My parents live within walking distance currently too which is great, though off peak it is only a 10-15 min drive. It's the same distance from DH's mother and would have no impact on DH's journey to work, might add 10 mins or so to mine but I only travel 2-3x a week so less of a concern.

Well done if you've got this far & any thoughts/ wise words are welcomed!

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lalalonglegs · 11/10/2015 22:22

Go and see the house and put in a lowish offer? Other than that, stay put and work out a lift rota with some local parents - I agree that it sounds a nightmarish journey for your son.

Needmoresleep · 12/10/2015 05:10

Rent a house and rent out yours?

putcustardonit · 12/10/2015 06:17

A couple of things spring to mind.

If DS is 11 or 12 it won't be 8 years because he'll probably learn to drive at 17.

Moving is so expensive, I'd be really sure you like the area rather than just see the convenience.

What's the school situation like locally? Presumably it's not your local school but you chose it for a reason. If that's because it's got a great reputation then a property by the gates could be a good investment.

Have you got other DC that will be in the same situation later?

It does sound an awful journey but I agree that lift shares might be an option if you can sort it.

Sunnyshores · 12/10/2015 12:31

Thats a really long journey and I would move. That said, Id have to feel Id got a better house or area or something else too.

over an hour to do 4 miles? Why.
Is this bus free? If you're paying perhaps it would be as cheap to hire a daily taxi for x number of them that come to your stop.

Chewbecca · 12/10/2015 17:54

Thanks for the thoughts.

The bus journey itself isn't taking 60 mins but door to door that's what it is taking, he leaves at 730 for the 744 bus, it arrives anytime between 744 and 8 and takes about 25 mins, couple of mins at the other end. School starts at 830. I had originally hoped he might be able to take a later bus (801) but that's not likely to be ok given that'll be late too.
The length of time of the return journey is largely spent waiting at the bus stop for a bus with space on to arrive!
I have complained to the bus company about the use of single deckers for peak school run buses.

It is a public bus, costs £2.30 return so not very expensive, much cheaper than cabs which would cost about £15 e/w. besides, I really wanted DS to be independent. Maybe I'm too hung up on that. I'm not keen to get into lift rotas as I work and cannot reciprocate!

One idea you have given me is to contact the company that run the school buses and propose they run one this way. I'm going to do that now.

Another useful thought was about the length of time I'm talking about, agree, if we can get DS driving ASAP, it's only 5 years (and a bit).

Also, I know I do not like the area as much as my current area, it would be a move for convenience only. Which is what I was trying to get my thoughts round by starting this thread, is that a daft thing to do?

The school is a grammar so there's no positive impact on neighbouring house prices, in fact the catchment (non grammar) school is not good.

I did consider visiting the house and putting in a low offer, but my concern there is that DH says he wouldn't pay more than £580k for it, which is £100k lower than asking price which, to me, was beyond a low offer, just time wasting if we are not prepared to pay anything like the asking price.

No other DC to consider.

I did also look at rental properties in the vicinity, nothing pleasant nearby on offer right now. Also bit concerned about the impact on my home (which is all freshly decorated, carpeted, kitchen etc, would cost a lot to re-do on our return which I'm guessing would be needed).

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CrapBag · 12/10/2015 21:25

I don't envy you. We may well be in this situation in a few years, DS is adamant he wants to do his 11+. If he does the grammar school is a good 6/7 miles away and I'm not aware of a school bus that comes near ours. Me driving him would cost loads in petrol, the traffic will be horrendous and DD will still be at our local primary school for another 3 years, then there would be no guarantee she would go to the girls grammar that isn't too far from the boys.

I don't know if we could actually afford a bus pass that is over £50 a month at the moment, probably be £60 by the time he is that age so I said to DH we may have to consider moving even though we love our house and the houses near the grammar are either in a shitty area I won't consider or are out of our price range. Plus there is DD to consider and where she will go.

I can't see them willing to take 580k. Can you ask the EA how they justify this price and see what they say? Is there anywhere that's just an easier route near the school but not too close?

Chewbecca · 12/10/2015 21:36

That's rubbish crapbag, it would be awful to turn down a place because of bus pass prices.

I think that living beyond 3 miles from school used to entitle children to a free bus pass. But changes now mean that is only the case when you've been allocated a school further away, rather than chosen a school further away. Which is awful for the grammars, that they may be selecting by income based on higher travel to school costs.

This school is not great for public transport links, there is a slightly closer school that's easier to get to but unfortunately DS hated it and loved this one & I thought his perception of school was important. To be fair, the journey is the only downside, (almost) everything else has been great so far.

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minimalistaspirati0ns · 12/10/2015 21:46

Houses of that price can be reduced by 100k if on for long enough.

Ring the estate agents. Tell them you like the look of the house but can only afford xxx and is there any flexibility price wise

CrapBag · 12/10/2015 21:55

I know, I've just been googling it and it's rubbish. I wouldn't want it to ruin DS's chances of going to a great school so we would have to find a way to do it. He may change his mind about doing the 11+ (unlikely) or he may not pass.

I'm dreading the secondary school choice!

I second what minimalist said, it won't hurt to find out. If it isn't selling it will be because of an unrealistic price.

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